O/T Demonic Cummings.

[ramAnag]

Quick question. I think we all accept that it is wrong to be prejudiced against members of any minority group on the basis of race, ***uality, age, beliefs or whatever, especially when one has no idea about the attributes, qualities or skill sets of those people.

I think we also all accept that, despite a parliamentary majority, the current tory government enjoys the support of a minority of the electorate.

So if the statement in paragraph one is true, why is it acceptable to make derogatory remarks about a Conservative, minority, supporter when you, by your own admission, know bugger all about his attributes???

Just being provocative for a Saturday evening.

1) I’m not being ‘prejudiced’. Prejudice is ‘pre-conceived opinion that is not based on reason or experience’. My feelings about Cummings are all based on both reason and experience.
2) I didn’t say I knew ‘bugger all about his attributes’. I actually outlined them in my opening post. I said I didn’t claim to be more expert on the subject than Adi, Andy or mista.

What’s so special about Saturday evening? You’ve been ‘provocative’ for the sake of it since the ‘lockdown’ started.

[Geoff Parkstone]

1) I’m not being ‘prejudiced’. Prejudice is ‘pre-conceived opinion that is not based on reason or experience’. My feelings about Cummings are all based on both reason and experience.

erm, right. So you have met him, chatted over his opinions with him on things covid related and applied your reason and experience to assess his skill set to strategise responses to the virus (or whatever this committee is supposed to do). Or maybe, just maybe, you have heard stuff in the media reporting on his general views and opinions with which you disagree, and this is coloured your view s on his abilities to fulfill a role that neither of us even know what it is! That sounds very pre conceived and prejudiced (pre judged) to me

2) I didn’t say I knew ‘bugger all about his attributes’. I actually outlined them in my opening post. I said I didn’t claim to be more expert on the subject than Adi, Andy or mista.

And I have no clue as to his abilities to participate in decision making either, but unlike you I do not state that he is "flawed" and "unqualified". I'm sure that you have sat on may school governor meetings and thought to yourself "why is such and such a person here, they know nothing about teaching" - I know I have - but he has been appointed, much like parent governors I imagine, to give a little "perspective"


What’s so special about Saturday evening? You’ve been ‘provocative’ for the sake of it since the ‘lockdown’ started.

Having been accused of casual racism myself, it seems appropriate to point out your equivalent!

[Trickytreesreds]

Let's just stare at the elephant in the room shall we.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-labour-urges

Whatever this paper writes, he repeats it in here.
Is he on the payroll?

Quoted-

Various attendees of Sage told the Guardian that both Cummings and Warner had been taking part in meetings of the group as far back as February and had not merely observed but actively participated in discussions about the formation of advice.

Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, said there were significant questions for the government to answer over the credibility of its decision-making and how non-scientists have influenced policy, calling for minutes of meetings to be made public.

[ramAnag]

Having been accused of casual racism myself, it seems appropriate to point out your equivalent!

Weird reply...so now we have to have met and chatted with someone to form an opinion do we? I have many opinions of people I haven’t ‘met and chatted to’ as do we all. Are they all now invalid because you’ve set this new criteria? Maybe you need a rethink on Corbyn amongst others.

He is a historian and a political being who is suddenly on a scientific and medical body making decisions about how to handle a pandemic. He hasn’t been elected, he isn’t a scientist or a medic. Asking why he’s there doesn’t seem unreasonable.

No idea how my comments are any sort of ‘equivalent’ of your - possible - ‘casual racism’. Perhaps you’d like to explain, because it just sounds a bit like ‘tit for tat’ bollux at the moment.

[swaledale]

Weird reply...so now we have to have met and chatted with someone to form an opinion do we? I have many opinions of people I haven’t ‘met and chatted to’ as do we all. Are they all now invalid because you’ve set this new criteria? Maybe you need a rethink on Corbyn amongst others.

He is a historian and a political being who is suddenly on a scientific and medical body making decisions about how to handle a pandemic. He hasn’t been elected, he isn’t a scientist or a medic. Asking why he’s there doesn’t seem unreasonable.

No idea how my comments are any sort of ‘equivalent’ of your - possible - ‘casual racism’. Perhaps you’d like to explain, because it just sounds a bit like ‘tit for tat’ bollux at the moment.

I haven't met Trump but have come to the conclusion based on observing what he says and does and his history that he is a grade one arsehole!

Interestingly Cummins who mocked the Press about not caring for the "poor" citizens ripped off by the Eu is not short of a bob or to himself.!