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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    They are elected members of Parliament if they can’t take criticism what are they really there for ,Morgan can be pedantic no doubt but he’s essentially asking questions that need answers ,why would you give them the heads up on what you were going to ask can they not work that out themselves in the current climate..!!!

    How much money is not enough when it comes to the NHS ,have there been cuts undoubtedly but the numbers are huge how much of that money is squandered through bad management/practices you can never have enough if your essentially pouring money down a hole.
    I agree with much of what you say Mudskipper. I just think that Piers Morgan is on the right track but he could get so much more out of his guests if he gave them the chance to prepare. Imagine if today's interviewee had been able to explain why the obvious route, of putting in place the recommendations that were needed to prepare for a pandemic had been ignored, and what had been done instead. I am wanting more information, not just some politician being bashed.

    He had, on one of the programmes, someone who had made a detailed study of the way other countries had closed down their airports, or tested every person who came off any plane that did land. This was compared with the British attitude that did not test anyone, simply gave them a leaflet and told them to self isolate with no testing or tracing. It was a devastating presentation of facts which showed why Britain is in the state it is.

    There was another point that the British scientists/experts decided to call this pandemic something else. The point of this was to address the fact that they could not legally ask the health service to cope with a pandemic abecause they did not have sufficient PPE and oxygen delivery systems and ventilators that were needed to cope with a pandemic. This , to me, was a very damaging allegation. The problem is what do you do. It looks to me as though the whole save the NHS strategy has been a smokescreen to encourage our health service workers to do the only thing possible and that is, to do the best they can with what they have and what can be acquired as quickly as possible. It isn't right and I think things will be different and n future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I agree with much of what you say Mudskipper. I just think that Piers Morgan is on the right track but he could get so much more out of his guests if he gave them the chance to prepare. Imagine if today's interviewee had been able to explain why the obvious route, of putting in place the recommendations that were needed to prepare for a pandemic had been ignored, and what had been done instead. I am wanting more information, not just some politician being bashed.

    He had, on one of the programmes, someone who had made a detailed study of the way other countries had closed down their airports, or tested every person who came off any plane that did land. This was compared with the British attitude that did not test anyone, simply gave them a leaflet and told them to self isolate with no testing or tracing. It was a devastating presentation of facts which showed why Britain is in the state it is.

    There was another point that the British scientists/experts decided to call this pandemic something else. The point of this was to address the fact that they could not legally ask the health service to cope with a pandemic abecause they did not have sufficient PPE and oxygen delivery systems and ventilators that were needed to cope with a pandemic. This , to me, was a very damaging allegation. The problem is what do you do. It looks to me as though the whole save the NHS strategy has been a smokescreen to encourage our health service workers to do the only thing possible and that is, to do the best they can with what they have and what can be acquired as quickly as possible. It isn't right and I think things will be different and n future.
    Pretty much agree with the above ,Morgan makes good points but falls into the trap of almost making the debate personnel he needs to learn to step back and let them make their own mistakes ,I think the PM needs to stop sending ministers that are ill prepared for this type of interrogation ,can you imagine if it was Andrew Neill.

    The whole save the NHS has been a cover up/smokescreen as you say they have been left to manage through when there has been a clear failing at the top level ,it will never be proven but I’ll bet the decision to not stockpile PPE on the back of evidence was an economic one who knows.

    This country has been taking flights into airports and not testing these people,so effectively we have been in lockdown for 5 weeks and the government has left the back door open ,just staggering.

    There was another professor on the radio this morning saying test test test it’s the only way to know what your dealing with until there is a vaccine.

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