O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[jackal2]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Mapperleypie]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This is all very well and good but the UK stats only include deaths in hospitals where the deceased has tested +ve for COVID-19. Kind of renders the 21k a bit of a red-herring.

[Old_pie]

This is all very well and good but the UK stats only include deaths in hospitals where the deceased has tested +ve for COVID-19. Kind of renders the 21k a bit of a red-herring.

On what basis are the other countries on that list recording C19 deaths? I had a quick look but couldn't see.

I am assuming you, like every other man and his dog except for a few on here, know that at least two sets of figures are released for the UK.

[LaxtonLad]

On what basis are the other countries on that list recording C19 deaths? I had a quick look but couldn't see.

I am assuming you, like every other man and his dog except for a few on here, know that at least two sets of figures are released for the UK.

Two sets? How about:

Total deaths from ANY cause since February.
Deaths where COVID is the only cause.
Deaths where COVID was not found.
Deaths where COVID was found.

Remember, in the UK COVID is a notifiable disease which means if it is found in ANY death from ANY cause it must be entered on the death certificate. Depending on how you juggle the figures, the number of deaths could be 8% of the quoted numbers especially since deaths in care homes are now included and most of those would not previously have had an autopsy.

It would be interesting to know how other countries break down their figures.

[Old_pie]

Two sets?

I said "at least two sets", and in context, for Covid related, no for arguments sake, motor accidents.

How about:

Total deaths from ANY cause since February.
Deaths where COVID is the only cause.
Deaths where COVID was not found.
Deaths where COVID was found.

Yes, two of those sets are for where there was Covid. Lots of other stats are available from the ONS site, and deaths since February don't mean much unless compared to deaths since Feb other years.

Remember, in the UK COVID is a notifiable disease which means if it is found in ANY death from ANY cause it must be entered on the death certificate. Depending on how you juggle the figures, the number of deaths could be 8% of the quoted numbers especially since deaths in care homes are now included and most of those would not previously have had an autopsy.

It would be interesting to know how other countries break down their figures.

That is what I asked: "On what basis are the other countries on that list recording C19 deaths? I had a quick look but couldn't see."

Though even we had full breakdowns of every figure imaginable there would still be a need to properly interpret them.