NL board to decide early next week

[Woodypie]

I put forward a similar solution earlier this week, somebody pointed out that it would be unfair on teams fast tracked to the final or SF because they wouldn't be match fit (which is a bt of a stretch seeing that other teams would only be playing one or two additional games). The answer to that would be to give them the option of taking part in an earlier round, or doing it as a mini-group or two leading to a final, if they really believe they'd be at a disadvantage.

It's a good point to say that 150 odd years (including top flight etc.) should trump a 12 match run over a couple of months early-ish in the campaign, which is solely the reason Barrow are where they are. They have not been consistently top of the table form from beginning to lockdown, far from it.

Depending on if it is either one or two teams required, top four should compete in a mini league, winner promoted. Or top eight compete in two mini leagues, winners promoted. Home advantage luck of the draw.

[LilCrazyKim]

The problem with the argument that Notts should be invited back as the 91st-ranked club in 2018/19 is that it rests entirely on what the EFL decide to do. The National League are probably about to declare this season null and void, but I would be very surprised if the EFL followed suit. And if the EFL ultimately resolve the 2019/20 season without null and voiding, then we weren't members during their last legally-completed season. Then the legal basis to reclaim membership (which sounds feasible if not moral) is gone and it becomes a slightly rubbish argument when the possibility to invite a club on footballing merit still exits.

[upthemaggies]

They really have shifted the goalposts this last week. To suggest that Barrow were playing for something all along and the rest of us weren't, effectively playing friendlies (apart from fixtures v Barrow for some inexplicable reason) is bang out of order, it defies all logic.

I'm hopeful though that our studious owners will take up the challenge and hopefully, if the FL has the final say, that we do get to present our case in some form or other, be that in a legal challenge or on a more cordial basis.

[Oldstripy]

Some good conversations going on here most to do with who will go up which is understandable, I want to again want to talk about the financial implications there was a piece in The Mail 9th April.

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/1836...yments-needed/

The Barrow manager is saying that the PL money will only cover the advanced payments for Solidarity,Parachute and Academy the NL teams would normally receive in August.

So if a lot of NL clubs have used that money to pay expenses such as HMRC PAYE what money will they have to spend when the new season starts.

I have a feeling that Barrow and some of the other teams will not be able to meet the financial requirements to run a professional football club.

[crazyfists]

Barrow up, one down. We'll have to go again next year but I think the way we were playing and the anger from it being all for nothing will see us in Barrows spot next season. If we'd have had a good start we'd be in Barrows spot anyway but we had a ****ed up pre season. I hope next season we put all these to the sword which we were starting to do before it all got called off.

[the_anticlough]

Barrow up, one down. We'll have to go again next year but I think the way we were playing and the anger from it being all for nothing will see us in Barrows spot next season. If we'd have had a good start we'd be in Barrows spot anyway but we had a ****ed up pre season. I hope next season we put all these to the sword which we were starting to do before it all got called off.

I can't see it that way CF, 24 teams all starting from 0pts...it's a tough league to get out of.
I can only think of the all ways we might get a shot at going up 'this season'

[sidders]

Too many arguments on this fred about what the respective football authorities might do. These authorities are fourth in line behind
1. How the coronavirus develops globally
2. What respective governments do about how 1 affects them
3. How sporting authorities respond to 2
4. If 1, 2 and 3 are favourable then all is dependent on footballing decisions.
Based on so many dependencies, I would say that Notts going up in 2020 is no better than 50-1.
As I have said elsewhere, I see January 2021 as the most likely start of a new football season and due to economic factors I believe the National League could be slimmed down to as few as 16 clubs

[Chinawhite1000]

This from Harrogate Advertiser;-

The current EFL position as outlined verbally to the National League and the FA is that if the National League completes its play-offs following the existing approved format and League Two completes its season, it is reasonable to assume the National League play-off winner can be promoted as the ‘National League runner- up’.

'However, if either of these conditions were not fulfilled, it is quite possible that the promotion place for the play-off winner could be jeopardised.'

The key phrase is "existing approved format", i.e. the clubs in 2nd to 7th places. By any calculation Barrow are top and, therefore, not involved.

That's a post lifted off the Barrow forum (not originally posted by me).

Here is the link to the newspaper article;-

https://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.u...league-2553504

[Chinawhite1000]

If the EFL invite Barrow into the league I can't see them finishing the season, it is far more expensive to run a league club than a NL club even taking into account the promotion money.

Weren't Barrow one of the first clubs to furlough their players and staff because they have run out of money.

I'm not even sure if Barrow has furloughed anybody at all yet. Most of the NL clubs ave players on 44 week contracts as per most of Non-League clubs - Notts (and Probably Yeovil) have players on 52 week contracts which is a follow on from being in the EFL in season 2018/2019.

[Chinawhite1000]

Too many arguments on this fred about what the respective football authorities might do. These authorities are fourth in line behind
1. How the coronavirus develops globally
2. What respective governments do about how 1 affects them
3. How sporting authorities respond to 2
4. If 1, 2 and 3 are favourable then all is dependent on footballing decisions.
Based on so many dependencies, I would say that Notts going up in 2020 is no better than 50-1.
As I have said elsewhere, I see January 2021 as the most likely start of a new football season and due to economic factors I believe the National League could be slimmed down to as few as 16 clubs

Agree with all that - apart from maybe the 16 clubs - unless that's in part due to the demise of EFL clubs - there are a lot of clubs in trouble there as you all know;- Macclesfield, Southend, Oldham, Bradford to name but 4. It May be that the top 4 in the NL end up in the EFL or it maybe no-one does....