The Corona Virus

[sinkov]

You may be right Super, but it looks like the UK has the worst per capita death rate in the world, once care home and community deaths are factored in.
Whichever way you look at it, we didn't act quickly enough in the early stages and thousands have paid for it with their lives.

Once again 59 you're ill-informed, our figures which now include hospital, care home and deaths in the wider community might exceed those of France and Spain at the moment, but you're not comparing like with like, those two countries do not include deaths in the wider community in their figures. The French newspaper La Croix says the deaths in the community figures in France are a 'timebomb waiting to explode.'
You really should know by now not to take too seriously what you read in the Guardian or see on Panorama or Newsnight. Do I have to keep telling you this ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Once again 59 you're ill-informed, our figures which now include hospital, care home and deaths in the wider community might exceed those of France and Spain at the moment, but you're not comparing like with like, those two countries do not include deaths in the wider community in their figures. The French newspaper La Croix says the deaths in the community figures in France are a 'timebomb waiting to explode.'
You really should know by now not to take too seriously what you read in the Guardian or see on Panorama or Newsnight. Do I have to keep telling you this ?

If the government’s own statistics are to be believed, the UK has already lost more than 26,000 lives to the coronavirus pandemic. Those deaths now account for an eighth of the world’s Covid-19 deaths with less than a hundredth of its population.
Not really a good effort from our hapless Tory government, is it sinkov?

[1959_60]

A lot of lessons (good and bad) to be learnt.

Remember, Italy, Spain, France are also around three weeks "further along the curve" than us. Why have countries like these been badly hit?

Why have countries like Germany and Austria done relatively well?

A lot of info on the site attached.

Belgium seems to be the worst affected country in Europe according to the deaths per million column.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[sinkov]

If the government’s own statistics are to be believed, the UK has already lost more than 26,000 lives to the coronavirus pandemic. Those deaths now account for an eighth of the world’s Covid-19 deaths with less than a hundredth of its population.
Not really a good effort from our hapless Tory government, is it sinkov?

NHS, envy of the world. not any more I don't think eh ? Not that it ever was really, which is why no one else has chosen to use that model.

'Stay Home, Save the NHS'

Well we've saved the NHS, more spare capacity than you can shake a ****ty stick at, maybe it should now try a little bit harder to save us ? Other privatised health care systems worldwide seem to be managing it better.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

NHS, envy of the world. not any more I don't think eh ? Not that it ever was really, which is why no one else has chosen to use that model.

'Stay Home, Save the NHS'

Well we've saved the NHS, more spare capacity than you can shake a ****ty stick at, maybe it should now try a little bit harder to save us ? Other privatised health care systems worldwide seem to be managing it better.

The Bolton Evening News confirmed the death of a 46 year old male doctor from COVID-19. Real cause of death: lack of proper, effective PPE.

The Health Minister ought to resign - now.

[sinkov]

The Bolton Evening News confirmed the death of a 46 year old male doctor from COVID-19. Real cause of death: lack of proper, effective PPE.

The Health Minister ought to resign - now.

Why ?

[sinkov]

The Bolton Evening News confirmed the death of a 46 year old male doctor from COVID-19. Real cause of death: lack of proper, effective PPE.

The Health Minister ought to resign - now.

Maybe you should check this out BT,

Role of the Board of Directors

"The Board of Directors is collectively responsible for the exercise of the powers and the performance of the NHS Foundation Trust. Its role is to provide active leadership of the Trust within a framework of prudent and effective controls which enables risk to be assessed and managed."

Just in case you're wondering that's from the website of Bolton NHS Foundation Trust and they seem to be claiming responsibility for the performance of the Trust and risk assessment and risk management. So maybe you should be asking which of these is responsible for the death of the 46 year old male doctor ?

Fiona Noden – Chief Executive
Andy Ennis MSc, RGN, RSCN – Chief Operating Officer and Deputy Chief Executive
Annette Walker – Director of Finance
Francis Andrews – Medical Director
James Mawrey – Director of Workforce
Sharon Martin – Director of Strategic Transformation
Marie Forshaw, Acting Director of Nursing, Midwifery and Allied Health Professionals


Non Executive Directors

Donna Hall – Chair
Dr Malcolm Brown
Bilkis Ismail
Jackie Njoroge
Martin North
Alan Stuttard
Andrew Thornton

So which one would it be BT, which one is responsible for the safety and well being of their front line staff, which one is responsible for ensuring they have adequate PPE ? There are enough of them, one of them must be responsible surely, if not what on earth do they do to justify their massive salaries, generous expenses and gold-plated pensions ? Or maybe none of them has that responsibility, maybe they're all just too busy to concern themselves with the welfare of their employees and they leave it all to the Secretary of State for Health in London to do it for them ? Is that what it is ? Maybe, besides ordering PPE for them Matt Hancock also has to order arse-wipes for them as well, maybe he also has to travel up to Bolton to wipe their arses for them, maybe he should travel up to Bolton to kick their arses for them, that might inspire them to do the job they're well paid to do and which they say they're responsible for, assessing and managing risks. Maybe one or two should consider resigning, but they won't, it's much easier to keep sitting in their shiny-arsed suits, raking the money in and blame one man in London 250 miles away.