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Fascinating what you find when you get away from BDS infected media outlets, these are comments from health care professionals under a piece on the HSJ website.

Debjit Chatterjee (May 1st)

"From the experience of working in my hospital as well as speaking to my physician and nursing colleagues in the other hospitals, it looks like that the protective measures taken by the NHS workers during their day to day work in the non ICU/HDU setting have not been adequate. This was probably particularly true in the first 2 weeks of start of rapid transmission. At that stage I noted that the general concept among the junior doctors and nurses and health care assistants was they would all get it and it was a mild illness and so let get it over. There was not even basic PPE (which includes a surgical fluid resistant mask) allowed/advised by our trust in the suspected Covid / non-Covid areas in the first two weeks. From my personal experience I can say that the hospital management also pushed the staff to work with mild/doubtful symptoms as there were not many workers left then to run the usual work in the hospital. I have to say that the health care workers were also not proactive in their approach of self-protection and hospital management did not have any specific plan to protect their staff in clinical and non-clinical areas (like re-arranging the ward space or nursing station to allow more social distancing , restricting number of staff in the can**** or coffee room). Use of masks by the health care workers in non-Covid and non-clinical areas in the beginning was also actively discouraged."

Simon Green (30th April)

"I am currently working on a busy Covid ICU. I wear an FFP3 valved mask, scrubs, full length gown, apron, shoes which are only used in the red zone and replaced each exit/entry, three pairs of gloves (only the outer pair of which are changed between patients while the others are taped on to the gown so they are not accidentally removed), surgical hat and face visor. On exiting the unit I am met by a team of HCSWs who walk everyone through the doffing procedure step by step, supplying alcogel at each stage and making sure you did not contaminate yourself or others. Frankly, I am more concerned about catching Coronavirus on my way to work rather than when I am there."

Anonymous (28th April)

"But but for those staff who 1 have self isolated because of either a family member or themselves have shown symptoms and then down to that person's individual manager of which department they work for then send them to be tested . When that member of staff gets a positive result for covid are they then allowed to continue working ????, system's or no systems if a member of staff has a positive result surly should only be allowed to come back to work after testing neg ???, are they not carrier s ???"

L. Ainsworth (28th April)

" I have seen reports ex in Wales where 50% of staff acquired Covid 19 although the medical staff were clear that everyone wore PPE
The question which needed to be addressed by audit was how ? Were they worn properly and importantly removed with due care ?
The newest high tech Hospital opened in Naples following the melt down in services in March stressed these procedures .Special facilities using the latest technology was available for disrobing ,and washing before leaving the unit. Nurses and doctors of course visit supermarkets and mix with family after leaving the hospital. Often carrying laptops and handbags and using cars parked in public car parks. Awareness training was ***** to avoid contamination, but how many Trusts instigated Audit in order to identify weakness in practices known to reduce risk ?"

Jenny Tricket (27th April)

"Certainly in one of the Trusts which has experienced a reported staff death, there is very inconsistent practice re. supporting staff to work from home with some staff being pushed to work in shared office space. Poor guidance by managers on the use of PPE so staff told to use only if patients are showing symptoms forgetting that many service users may have little social contact and that staff are at higher risk of contracting and transmitting the virus to service users and each other. Meanwhile, senior managers all work from home so little idea of what realities are on the frontline."

P Malins (April 24th)

"When my wife returned to work following the change there was no PPE. They had to fight to get it and even though there was stock off the ward they were told they could not have it. It took a number of days and escalation to senior Matrons to get sorted."

And not a single mention of Matt Hancock could I find, they all seemed to feel the problem lay much closer to home, within their own management, NHS managers.
Hard to imagine that Team England led by Hancock's Half Hour did not put in an immediate, mandatory protocol in place, across all England's hospitals sinkov?