O/t sturgeon

[BCram]

Yep, keep asking the same questions and they keep getting the same non answers. Latest one is kids going to school and still the solution is to expect them to socially isolate. No PPE for teachers. Read that the 1918 flu was in 2 waves. First wave left the kids alone and hit the elderly, second wave hit the kids hard. Seems to me we need something other than social isolation to help kids back k into school.

[islaydarkblue]

Yep, keep asking the same questions and they keep getting the same non answers. Latest one is kids going to school and still the solution is to expect them to socially isolate. No PPE for teachers. Read that the 1918 flu was in 2 waves. First wave left the kids alone and hit the elderly, second wave hit the kids hard. Seems to me we need something other than social isolation to help kids back k into school.

The teaching unions are complaining that the schools are not prepared for re-opening and in Scotland should not re-open until the start of the new school year in the middle of August.
However the unions conveniently forget to mention that teachers are currently teaching special needs pupils and pupils of key workers at elected schools throughout each Scottish local authority including Dundee.
It would be a different story if the teachers were not receiving full pay from their local authority. Then they would be desperate to get back to work instead of having a nice long 5 months holiday.

[Deeranged]

The teaching unions are complaining that the schools are not prepared for re-opening and in Scotland should not re-open until the start of the new school year in the middle of August.
However the unions conveniently forget to mention that teachers are currently teaching special needs pupils and pupils of key workers at elected schools throughout each Scottish local authority including Dundee.
It would be a different story if the teachers were not receiving full pay from their local authority. Then they would be desperate to get back to work instead of having a nice long 5 months holiday.

Teachers do like their time off Islay but I feel you're being a bit harsh here. Kids won't socially distance and if schools were reopened fully they would spread the virus like wildfire amongst themselves. As BCram says history suggests that a second wave could have a devastating effect on the young rather than the older population - presumambly because older people will have more mature immune systems with greater ability to build up resistance to viruses - and it could get nasty for them.

My suggestion would be to insist that teachers partake in community work whilst off. They couls be helping with delivering food packages to the isolated elderly people in the community for example.

Or they could paint my fence for me, I'm pissed off doing it already.

[islaydarkblue]

Teachers do like their time off Islay but I feel you're being a bit harsh here. Kids won't socially distance and if schools were reopened fully they would spread the virus like wildfire amongst themselves. As BCram says history suggests that a second wave could have a devastating effect on the young rather than the older population - presumambly because older people will have more mature immune systems with greater ability to build up resistance to viruses - and it could get nasty for them.

My suggestion would be to insist that teachers partake in community work whilst off. They couls be helping with delivering food packages to the isolated elderly people in the community for example.

Or they could paint my fence for me, I'm pissed off doing it already.

Hi Deeranged.
My father was a teacher so I know all about the long holidays that they receive which have become even longer since the teachers strikes in the 1980’s. My father told me that there used to be 200 admissions per year which equates to 200 school days that a teacher and pupils are at school.
After the teachers strike ended in 1986 their new contract stated that that pupils had 190 admissions per year and 195 days for teachers which is 5 in service days per year. Teachers have quietly received an extra five working days holiday which equates to one week and yet they are still moaning about being overworked.
The teacher unions are complaining about the virus spreading like wildfire if schools were re-opened yet there has been no mention about the schools that are currently open for pupils with special needs and pupils of key workers. The teachers working in these schools are likely to have little or no PPE but there has been no comment about this from the General Secretary of the EIS (General Education of Scotland) teachers union.