O/T:- Should he stay or should he go? WARNING - POLITICAL THREAD!!!!

[countygump]

Even if you accept that Cummings broke the rules to safeguard (not a given) by driving to Durham, taking the family on a pleasant drive and sit down by a river while telling people to STAY AT HOME was not safeguarding. It is embarrassing. Everyone knows he's a liar.

Nobody cares about Gething or Kinnock because they didn't make then break their own rules. I would be perfectly happy for them to be punished, but talking about them is just a distraction as they didn't set the rules, design the slogans

So, 2 different levels of punishment for people who break the same set of rules then?

Seems fair.

[drillerpie]

So, 2 different levels of punishment for people who break the same set of rules then?

Seems fair.

Yes, I think you've got it.

[dam617]

Your comments about me veer from the intolerant to the tolerant so many times that I've learned to treat both imposters the same.

As you know from a Guardian article I suspect you read earlier, the Mail's headline was 'What planet are they on?'. This is quite ironic really, because you would need to have lived on another planet - or certainly not read the Mail in recent years - to realise that changes to their senior editorial team at the Mail have led to some significant changes in their outlook and messaging. Therefore, the Government should not place as much faith in it as a bellwether of Tory support that it might once have done.

Anyway, Dominic Cummings has made a very full statement, wisely or unwisely, and people will draw their conclusions from seeing it, or from the re-interpretation of it subsequently given to them by journalists. One thing I would say about this unprecedented event is that it possibly gave the public greater insight into the fact that (some) journalists are not impartial seekers of truth on the public's behalf, but rather, unelected politicians pursuing their own very determined agenda.

In my view, neither Government ministers nor Mr Cummings should say any more, because it will only feed those who would seek to bring them down.

The Mail switched to the Remain camp, weeks before the Referendum. That's when I stopped buying it.


To Geordie, Pro-Remain is still more important than Pro-Johnson.

[drillerpie]

The Mail switched to the Remain camp, weeks before the Referendum. That's when I stopped buying it.


To Geordie, Pro-Remain is still more important than Pro-Johnson.

Anyone got the front page from when we left the EU to check if that's correct?

[seriouspie]

Why are there no demands for Gething or Kinnock to resign? They broke the rules just to socialize, not to safeguard. A very loud silence about that, isn't there?
Because they are not in government which puts a whole different level of responsibility on people
Because they didn't author the behaviour code and then break their own code of honour

Insignificant ineffectual Lefty response.

[BigFatPie]

Anyone got the front page from when we left the EU to check if that's correct?

Our Forest idiot is on the money as usual.

[upthemaggies]

So a Tory minister has resigned and we also have this tweet from William Wragg MP..........



"We cannot throw away valuable public & political good will any longer. It’s humiliating & degrading to their office to see ministers put out agreed lines in defence of an advisor. This is a time of national emergency and our focus must be unrelenting. We owe it to the nation."

[countygump]

Insignificant ineffectual Lefty response.

Watching Cummings 'performance' yesterday, it was all too obvous there were a few poorly thought thru porkies thrown in there. If he broke the rules, then he should resign, fair do's. But if that doesn't apply to all those who transgressed, then it really does begin to look like a 'witch hunt', a Brexit fuelled one.

[BigFatPie]

Our Forest idiot is on the money as usual.

The reference to ‘greedy elites’ on that page is interesting. That campaign was led by a bloke who told us yesterday that he went for a walk ‘in his father’s wood’. That was straight after telling us how he left his Islington town house to stay at another property on his father’s estate.

Does anyone feel silly for believing anything this guy says?

[BigFatPie]

Watching Cummings 'performance' yesterday, it was all too obvous there were a few poorly thought thru porkies thrown in there. If he broke the rules, then he should resign, fair do's. But if that doesn't apply to all those who transgressed, then it really does begin to look like a 'witch hunt', a Brexit fuelled one.

What did Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood have to do with Brexit?