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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Philanthropy is the best way to describe the way Boris is acting. Giving money away to help people, seems to me to be the best description of philanthropy. Trouble is that it's got to be repaid and everyone is going to have to chip in.
    Being repaid comes in different formats though. In an ideal world the 80% would be keeping people in work, so when they go back they start paying taxes again. That's the most ideal form of repayment.

    The worst case scenario is the companies run everybody on 80% furlough as long as they can then make them unemployed. Repayment nearly impossible that way as the cost of unemployment will be borne by the taxpayer, on top of the cost of the furlough scheme.

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    Some experts have been quoted ( although none as far as I can see were from Dundee Mad) stating this will be the deepest world wide depression on record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmac View Post
    Being repaid comes in different formats though. In an ideal world the 80% would be keeping people in work, so when they go back they start paying taxes again. That's the most ideal form of repayment.

    The worst case scenario is the companies run everybody on 80% furlough as long as they can then make them unemployed. Repayment nearly impossible that way as the cost of unemployment will be borne by the taxpayer, on top of the cost of the furlough scheme.
    As British Airways appear to be trying to do at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuntz View Post
    Some experts have been quoted ( although none as far as I can see were from Dundee Mad) stating this will be the deepest world wide depression on record.
    You don’t need to be an economics major to foresee that.

    We will bounce back though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuntz View Post
    Some experts have been quoted ( although none as far as I can see were from Dundee Mad) stating this will be the deepest world wide depression on record.
    Spot on Shuntz Rross has been saying this right from the start. Looks like more than just Dee's read this forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parcbara View Post
    As British Airways appear to be trying to do at the moment.
    Very worrying development. Penny must drop and we find a better way to deal with the virus than 2m isolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Very worrying development. Penny must drop and we find a better way to deal with the virus than 2m isolation.
    Calderwood/Ferguson/Cummings all decided how to deal with it ,obviously they’re experts though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    Calderwood/Ferguson/Cummings all decided how to deal with it ,obviously they’re experts though...
    I think they knew that they were not going to spread the virus and acted as they thought fit. It's the 2m rule that is killing the economy and that might have much a greater and longer lasting influence on our country. Testing, tracing and treating those who are really unwell with the virus is the way we get out of this. If your experts are largely virologists, epidemiologolists and NHS health experts what chance do politicians and civil servants have of changing anything? The flatten the curve process has worked but we still don't seem to have got anywhere near the testing and tracing approach that appears to have been so effective in other countries.
    Would also like to see a different approach to air travel. Putting everyone who lands in GB in quarantine seems to me to be a ploy. It is so unreasonable, was never applied to all the people who came in during March and April and May, why is it a sensible hing to do now that infection rates are in decline? I don't know the answer but I'll bet there is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    Calderwood/Ferguson/Cummings all decided how to deal with it ,obviously they’re experts though...
    You can add Ian Blackford the SNP MP for Skye at Westminster and leader of the SNP group of MPs to that list.
    Ian Blackford travelled from London to Skye on 26th March 2020 three days after the lockdown began on 23rd March 2020.
    Blackford was also very vociferous about the number of care home deaths in the care home in Skye yet he has never queried why these patients suffering from Covid-19 were not transferred by Air Ambulance helicopter to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness. There were a couple of helicopters stationed at Lossiemouth to transfer people suffering from Covid-19 in to a specialist A&E ward in a hospital.
    It has now been announced that the staff at Raigmore Hospital had few Covid-19 patients to treat yet people were left to die in the care home in Skye.
    In my opinion Nicola Sturgeon, Jeanne Freeman and Catherine Calderwood should be charged with manslaughter as a result of these care home deaths throughout Scotland. They made the decision at the beginning of the lockdown if not before 23rd March 2020.
    However nothing will be done as Nicola will trot out the usual excuse ‘we have to learn from our mistakes to ensure that it never happens again’...... until the next time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I think they knew that they were not going to spread the virus and acted as they thought fit. It's the 2m rule that is killing the economy and that might have much a greater and longer lasting influence on our country. Testing, tracing and treating those who are really unwell with the virus is the way we get out of this. If your experts are largely virologists, epidemiologolists and NHS health experts what chance do politicians and civil servants have of changing anything? The flatten the curve process has worked but we still don't seem to have got anywhere near the testing and tracing approach that appears to have been so effective in other countries.
    Would also like to see a different approach to air travel. Putting everyone who lands in GB in quarantine seems to me to be a ploy. It is so unreasonable, was never applied to all the people who came in during March and April and May, why is it a sensible hing to do now that infection rates are in decline? I don't know the answer but I'll bet there is one.
    Everyone who landed in the UK from the beginning of last February by plane, ferry or the Eurotunnel should have been immediately put into a 14 days quarantine period.
    However passengers at UK airports were handed a set of paper advising them to self isolate for a period of 14 days. This was voluntary when it should have been compulsory.

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