Regis.....Originally Posted by regis80
There is no doubt that if you use the “N” word these days everyone knows it’s offensive.
Back in the 70’s and 80’s my parents and grandparents and even teachers at school would describe a certain dark shade of brown as “N” brown and do it without the slightest hint of being a racist.........maybe you’re old enough to remember these times?
Back in the day when needing something from a local shop everyone I knew would identify that shop a being the “P” shop and again without any malice.
I worked for a few years across the West Midlands as a rep for a frozen food company and most of the shops were owned by Indians,Pakistanis and West Indians.
The Indians and the West Indians referred to their neighbours as the “P’s” but nobody labelled them as racist......I wonder why?
The truth is that back then I’d often refer to them to their faces as “You bloody P’s” and tell them what a cunning bunch they were and they’d laugh and call me “white boy” to which I’d laugh back.
Suddenly times changed and everybody started to take offence at everything.
About 7 years ago I entered a team in a 6 a side tournament at the Hawthorns and two former forum members had sons in my team.
One was HS Baggie who was Indian and the other was Jack the son of Bedford Baggie Jason.
The tournament went well until we played a team from Walsall who were all Pakistanis.
The abuse fished out on the pitch to my lads was appalling with young lads like Jak and my lad being called “white boy” with real venom in an attempt to cause a ruck.
My lad is 6 feet 4 and was into his kickboxing and was ready to take on all comers after the match.
I called the referee over and asked him what he was going to do about it and he said he’d heard nothing ( he was black by the way )
Funny that he’d heard nothing because HS Baggie ( Harry ) was sat in the East Stand and heard it all from 50 yards away.
After the event was finished HS came up to me and apologised on THEIR behalf saying he was ashamed to be Asian and he couldn’t believe the refs inaction and response.
I reported it to the event organisers on the day and they basically blanked me.
I left it at that but when contacted a year later to see if I wanted to enter a team again I rejected the offer and explained why.
Back to my original point though.......the “P” word should only be classed as racist at the point where “Brit,Scot,Dane,Aussie,Swede” and the rest are classed as the same.
I think your wrong by attacking GLM in this way Regis......it feels like points scoring to me but that’s your choice I guess.
If the “N” word was used then maybe so.
That said.........it seems it’s okay for black people to refer to themselves as “N” which strikes me as ironic seeing how quickly they jump on any white person using it.
If it’s racist for whites to use it then by definition it’s racist for blacks to use it.
Interesting debate this one.
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