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    In Sanskrit the words ''Prana dharma ' mean the cardinal characteristic of a person which differentiates one person from another. Just as each human being has his or her own traits so an entire race living within a particular geographical ,historical and cultural environment will also have some traits which distinguish it from another.

    Indians are basically subjective in their approach to life, that is they ascribe Godhood to every action thought and expression. The best way of enmity against a person or race is to is to deprive the person or the race of the freedom to cultivate their 'Prana Dharma.

    The English colonialists were also cunning enough to discern the Prana Dharma of the people of India,and they deprived them the freedom to express it. The British wanted to bring the entire Indian race under their colonial grip to make them slaves.They reformed the old educational system of India and bluntly introduced the English system of education. The English education system was contrary to that of India ,because it was based on an objective approach and the complete denial of the subject approach. That is why a huge difference developed between the so -called educated people and the village people of India. By applying these subtle tactics ,a group of people in India became European in attitude although they were Indian in colour,and this group were instrumental in perpetuating the British Raj in India.

    The British colonialists applied the same tactics in China. The Chinese people ,before the Kuomintan regime ,were labourious and dexterous as well as religious. By introducing opium the British made the whole Chinese race inactive and indolent. Afterwards Mao Zedong killed the religion and deprived them of their Prana Dharma. In this way the British and the communists brought the entire Chinese race under their grip.

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    Yes, the All India Muslim League lead by Mohammad Ali Jinnah. The Indian National Congress was lead by Jawaherlal Nehru. Congress won 707 seats, the Muslim League won 106 seats,
    other smaller parties won 772 seats.
    Without a majority Jinnah worried that the muslims would be increasingly vulnerable to oppression by the Hindu leadership.
    In 1945, after the defeat in the elections, Jinnah called for an independent nation of Pakistan of which Muslims would be in a majority, he warned a united India would mean slavery for Muslims.

    MK Gandhi did not oppose this policy "communal award" as a whole, but he did oppose a small part. He supported all points of this "communal award" i.e. granting of political power on a communal basis. He accepted the division between kings, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, businessmen. All would get political seats based on their caste and religion etc. MK Gandhi accepted this completely. That time he did not get the clue that the British were trying to poison the country by creating communal rifts. And those communal rifts - i.e. the "communal award" - ultimately became the cause of the division of India.

    “Over my dead body will India be divided." - Gandhi
    From 1932 to 1947, MK Gandhi vowed the country that India will not be divided. He specifically declared: "Over my dead body will India be divided." Many trusted him on this point. But when heated calls came for the division of India, then MK Gandhi passively accepted the partition of the country by keeping maon vrat (vow of silence).

    Gandhi's 2 political disciples - Jawaharlal Nehru & Sardar Patel - plus his friend, Mohammad Ali Jinnah wanted separation. They were getting older and all wanted power quickly. Ultimately they got their power by dividing India. Gandhi did not oppose them. All along the the mass of Indians trusted Gandhi to keep the country together. But in the end he betrayed their trust and in result, millions & millions were killed - and countless others lost their homes, property, and families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
    for a true perspective - Balan....need to always look at the pre-colonial situation, as in other countries - India had rival states, the sultans/kings/empires were at War...the soldiers were the people - their crops/taxes supplied and supported their military - who's officials owned much of the land and monetary control - the few ruled the many and the few held all the wealth - So I see Colonialism much as a modern management company - they organised the system into a more efficient machine - and took a cut for their trouble....the divided leaders of old would just as before....take their share of the booty - and with much less waste and more control over the people - became even wealthier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Norder : Oh but the British in India ?? To come home with trillions - ''divide and rule''.

    https://youtu.be/OIVPi0bvmtI
    thats the racket - Balam.....stoking ancient schisms etc - split and conquer, weaken, manage/control that to come....all very noticable in the wide open and pictured big , but folk tend to turn a blind eye to it, even glorify it when closer to home and seemingly in their interest - takeovers, speculation, boom and yield - weakening the competition - profitability....it's all about winners and losers, thats the system....in large or small degrees, it's the same bird - feeding the greed and profiting off of sefishness.... .


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    .......- takeovers, speculation, boom and yield - weakening the competition - profitability....it's all about winners and losers, that's the system.

    .....but yes, it's good for the present government, King or Queen,rulers etc . But is it really ? ''What goes around comes around ?''

    ''KARMA''

    For every action there is always a reaction. For what Britain did donkeys years ago ,will it bite back?

    How many deaths were caused by the British Empire?
    British India (regions administered either by the British East India Company from 1765 to 1857; or by the British Crown, in the British Raj, from 1858 to 1947) and Indian territories independent of British rule such as the Maratha Empire.
    A series of serious crop failures in the late 19th century led to widespread famines on the subcontinent in which it is estimated that over 15 million people died.

    Who knows ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Blinking heck army88, I have no idea why me saying I find it perverse that our privileged white male Prime Minister claims we who live in the United Kingdom are not living in a racist society. In incredulity when I say, I wonder what he has done with the “picaninnies with watermelon smiles and the women in burkas who resemble letter boxes” is setting back race relations in this country a "hundred years"?

    Anthony Joshua advocating segregation is beyond me. Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and their ilk fought tooth and nail and in some lives lost their lives so black people could access white owned businesses, restaurants and shops. Asking them now to segregate once again seems like lunacy to me. What next - black ghettoes?

    Hauling down statues, defiling Churchill's memorial and daubing BLM in red paint across our national cenotaph is ironic in the extreme. Churchill singlehandedly in my opinion galvanised a generation to oppose fascism, desecrating his memory by anti-fascists gives me the Homer Simpson moment of all Homer Simpson moments.

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    Just to be clear I will "take a knee" for no-one, and I do not think our police force should show subservience to the very people who are physically assaulting them.

    I cannot abide racism and quite frankly I do not think it is a political issue. I judge a person by the strength of their character not the colour of their skin. I see little strength of character being displayed by Johnson, Patel, Truss, Gove, Raab, Buckland, Hancock, Coffey, Williamson and Shapps, et al do you?

    It really is no good speculating as to what Corbyn would do, but I'm pretty sure he would make a better fist of handling this corona virus malarkey than this set of disingenuous, lying T W A T S would do. Barnard Castle anyone?

    Regarding Trump. I recently watched a documentary about the so-called "Central Park Five". It blew the lid right off the top of my head. It defines Trump in all of his bile, hate, prejudice and vanity. My God he is one hateful, despicable human being, and boy does he know how to divide and rule?
    Interestingly BT I've just watched a white guy get his throat cut by 2 black males on the internet.

    Here's my thing WHITE LIVES MATTER ,

    I said behind all your black racist rubbish this would happen and now it has , who'll rise up and create over white lives.

    See what you and your racist friends have achieved now.

    Not a knee to a throat for a convicted wife beater Robber and druggy , this time an innocent white guy with a family and loved ones murdered in cold blood by black men.

    How will you defend this ?

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    Impossible to defend army88, in the same way the murder of George Floyd was.

    Violence begets violence and we are witnessing a shocking spiral of violence now.

    I cannot understand how you think the murder of a "convicted wife beater, robber and drug user" by a serving police officer is justifiable? The result is an innocent white guy with a family and loved ones is murdered in cold blood by two black men in retaliation for yet one more crime. Madness!

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    I was the first to condone the man's murder BT check the posts, however I posted that the black.lives matter was political and that if it carried on there would be major problems.
    As I quoted racism is pushed back years and I said if it didn't stop trouble was coming.
    Sadly today's cold blooded murder for all to see on line will concrete the above statement.

    I'll be interested to see how the so called black /supporter superstars of the world will deal with this one , I'd ask them to take a minute to watch it for themselves and comment accordingly .

    They had plenty to say in the last 3_weeks for racism , let's see what they say this week.

    I really thought this was coming and I'm so sad it's happend.

    If your not racist just remember White Lives Matter.

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    Army, I made this point further up.

    If the boot was on the other foot and the black people basically ran the show ...and as a result the following was happening....

    White people, with the same qualifications, were not getting the same job opportunities as black people (60 more job applications than blacks to get an interview)

    White people were earning 10% less than black people,

    White people were much more subject to , say, stop and search by the police than black people - FORTY EIGHT TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE STOP AND SEARCHED THAN BLACKS,

    Far fewer white people than black people made it to key roles in most businesses (allowing for the differing numbers of white/black people in our society),

    Then would you speak out? I certainly would.

    This has been allowed to go on for far too long. There are loads of other examples of how our society is unthinkingly racist. The BAME people are not treated the same as whites.

    Now, with this movement, change is inevitable, and not before bloody time as well.

    If Boris and Trump are beginning to support it then not many people will be against it.

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    All the premier league players are wearing BLM on the back of their shirts for the rest of the season.

    BLOODY LOVE MONEY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Impossible to defend army88, in the same way the murder of George Floyd was.

    Violence begets violence and we are witnessing a shocking spiral of violence now.

    I cannot understand how you think the murder of a "convicted wife beater, robber and drug user" by a serving police officer is justifiable? The result is an innocent white guy with a family and loved ones is murdered in cold blood by two black men in retaliation for yet one more crime. Madness!
    The thing is BT I don’t believe it is in retaliation ( to a murder in America) its come about because sadly like I alluded to before we have managed to give these people a platform and told them they’re right And that all the people in the world are racist , the result is society is so frightened that they’re agreeing to Take down statues and memorials that are part of history And apologise for things that happend hundreds of years ago.

    The world had moved on but I feel as I said before all its achieved is a bigger divide between people in the Uk And more racism than ever.

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