And if you know your history........

[BaggieSingh]

I don’t consider views that go against mine racist
Most people don’t
But the best way to divide is to convince you that I and people like me do

Life’s all about change, surely things should change for the better
Celebrating people that don’t agree with a pretty basic thing that most people agree with for example all people should be treated equally Isn’t something we should be doing is it ?

I include Gandhi and Churchill in that, surely we should be able to question incorrect views and opinions in order to grow

After all we learn and grow in our lives, we don’t act and think as we did when we were children and part of that is external influences from your surroundings and environment, and if those surroundings & environment are not correct and are biased, and systematically taking advantage of others then what’s wrong with realising that you may have been influenced negatively

so why can’t we as a society grow up learn and pass on those messages to our children

[Leicesterbaggie]

What happened in the USA was abhorrent to any right minded person. However, this does not excuse the complete and utter disregard for the rule of law and the safety of others, by both black and white, at the demonstrations witnessed in many of our cities. This pandemic is the worst in a generation and in excess of 40,000 have lost their lives. Their actions will probably result in more losing their lives than would have done without these demonstrations. As mickd so rightly said 'All lives matter and not just blacks lives'. This is in no way a racist comment but a sad reflection of the disregard for others shown by these thoughtless individuals. As the saying goes 'Two wrongs don't make a right'.

[BaggieSingh]

No one is arguing against all lives matter

Everyone agrees they all do

As for what happened please watch that documentary of any well informed views on systematic racism and oppression
It’s is happening today along with a division on race and financial lines

But please watch something that will inform you on what these people have had against them for generations
Poor funding of everything no ability to better themselves and a system that keeps them oppressed

There’s plenty of money to be made by sending armies to war and people to prison

Just not as obvious because everyone is brain washed into thinking these people have had the same opportunities and have the same options as others

[Leicesterbaggie]

BS, the whole point of my post was not to argue against the movement but to castigate those individuals who were putting the lives of all races and creeds at risk.

[BaggieSingh]

Can’t disagree with that bro

[regis80]

The problem you are getting here (having read some of the comments above), is that, as soon as you look at is as 'us V them'.. there lies the problem. If you cannot simply acknowledge the discrimination that any group faces and only come on here to say that "whites guys were beaten up too", "blacks are just as much racist to each other", blah blah blah - then that says a lot about you. It is as if when a racist incident occurs, all the racists start getting defensive. If you are not a racist then you wouldn't need to defend yourself, it is as simple as that. The fact is, the states is where the BLM movement should be.. there should only be peaceful protests everywhere else to show support. How many more killings of a black person by a cop will we have til they start prosecuting them?

[dogead]

The problem you are getting here (having read some of the comments above), is that, as soon as you look at is as 'us V them'.. there lies the problem. If you cannot simply acknowledge the discrimination that any group faces and only come on here to say that "whites guys were beaten up too", "blacks are just as much racist to each other", blah blah blah - then that says a lot about you. It is as if when a racist incident occurs, all the racists start getting defensive. If you are not a racist then you wouldn't need to defend yourself, it is as simple as that. The fact is, the states is where the BLM movement should be.. there should only be peaceful protests everywhere else to show support. How many more killings of a black person by a cop will we have til they start prosecuting them?

Brilliant post.
Absolutely spot on.

[Leicesterbaggie]

The problem you are getting here (having read some of the comments above), is that, as soon as you look at is as 'us V them'.. there lies the problem. If you cannot simply acknowledge the discrimination that any group faces and only come on here to say that "whites guys were beaten up too", "blacks are just as much racist to each other", blah blah blah - then that says a lot about you. It is as if when a racist incident occurs, all the racists start getting defensive. If you are not a racist then you wouldn't need to defend yourself, it is as simple as that. The fact is, the states is where the BLM movement should be.. there should only be peaceful protests everywhere else to show support. How many more killings of a black person by a cop will we have til they start prosecuting them?

No, the problem is, thoughtless and selfish individuals putting innocent people's lives at risk!!

[BaggieSingh]

The problem you are getting here (having read some of the comments above), is that, as soon as you look at is as 'us V them'.. there lies the problem. If you cannot simply acknowledge the discrimination that any group faces and only come on here to say that "whites guys were beaten up too", "blacks are just as much racist to each other", blah blah blah - then that says a lot about you. It is as if when a racist incident occurs, all the racists start getting defensive. If you are not a racist then you wouldn't need to defend yourself, it is as simple as that. The fact is, the states is where the BLM movement should be.. there should only be peaceful protests everywhere else to show support. How many more killings of a black person by a cop will we have til they start prosecuting them?

My point exactly I stated in all my posts that it was about division on racial n socio economic terms
It’s about the system creating a them n us n dividing us

Once we start to see we r all together the 99% all think the same
We want to be safe we want some sort of comfort economically and we want to be happy and safe with our nearest and dearest
The issues occur when people don’t have all of those things and there’s a system to ensure that they don’t

If people all hot together there would be a change and who doesn’t want the change the people higher up the food. Hange
They don’t want to lose any power or financial benefits
They don’t have any qualms about people suffering as long as they get what they want