O/T Nelson's statue defaced, when will this all stop?

[Grumpy King of the West]

Ps, it's also important that people, me being one, are allowed to voice their concerns over illegal immigration without being called a racist or a bigot. Or indeed having such implied. That ship has sailed (pardon the pun).

Let the debate begin.....

[ragingpup]

Ps, it's also important that people, me being one, are allowed to voice their concerns over illegal immigration without being called a racist or a bigot. Or indeed having such implied. That ship has sailed (pardon the pun).

Let the debate begin.....

Hey Grumps,

In fairness there have been some good debates and points made on immigration on here from both sides of the argument. I've learned a few things from posters and made some adjustments to my stance. I've only seen a couple of racist comments tbf and very few also accusations of racism. Always good to remember the different types of immigration and I pretty much share your view on illegal immigration as opposed to asylum seekers. Although I think when you look at what I think I would call small numbers of illegal immigrants that actually make it into the country and the overall economic and social cost, I can't help but thinking that the problem, however unwelcome, gets far more attention than it deserves. But that's just my two penneth. Not sure I could add anything more - immigration gets raised time and time again on here and I'd welcome a footy message board without such repetition. But it is clearly a big concern for many.

I think that whilst the left can be guilty of shutting down genuine and well expressed concern with accusations of racism and "far right-ery", I think the same can be said for equally strong counter arguments that are too quickly dismissed as 'virtue signalling' and taking moral high grounds. I think most people involved with the debate on both sides have genuine concerns and in some cases express them very well on here. Shame so much of it becomes petty personal bickering.