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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    That method of reporting deaths is pure unadulterated gerrymandering of the figures.

    If we have had no deaths why the phuck are we having lockdowns and wearing masks? They can’t have it both ways.
    Public Health England up to two weeks ago was reporting a death from COVID-19 providing had previously been tested positive for COVID-19 months before. Public Health Scptland, Wales and Northern Ireland were only recoding a death from COVID-19 providing the person had tested positive for COVID-19 in the previous 28 days.
    You would think that the Public Health teams from each country would have spoken to each before the first COVID-19 case was recorded in the UK to find out how they planned to calculate any deaths in their area prior to submitting their total to the UK total.
    Since the new rules for calculating the number of deaths from Covid-19 has been introduced by Public Health England the number of daily deaths from COVID-19 in the UK has fallen by about 80%.
    In my opinion thanks to this incompetence by the management of Public Health England we have been in the lockdown far longer than necessary as the daily number of deaths would have been far lower than has been recorded.
    Two weeks ago the total number of deaths from COVID-19 was reduced at a stroke by 5,400 people.
    The authorities should have published a daily total from the notification of the first death showing the original ‘flawed’ figure and the correct figure using the new correct measure of a person dying from COVID-19 having been tested positive for COVID-19 with the last 28 days.
    The bosses at the top of the tree in Public Health England should be sacked for this failure but they will probably be rewarded with a knighthood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Public Health England up to two weeks ago was reporting a death from COVID-19 providing had previously been tested positive for COVID-19 months before. Public Health Scptland, Wales and Northern Ireland were only recoding a death from COVID-19 providing the person had tested positive for COVID-19 in the previous 28 days.
    You would think that the Public Health teams from each country would have spoken to each before the first COVID-19 case was recorded in the UK to find out how they planned to calculate any deaths in their area prior to submitting their total to the UK total.
    Since the new rules for calculating the number of deaths from Covid-19 has been introduced by Public Health England the number of daily deaths from COVID-19 in the UK has fallen by about 80%.
    In my opinion thanks to this incompetence by the management of Public Health England we have been in the lockdown far longer than necessary as the daily number of deaths would have been far lower than has been recorded.
    Two weeks ago the total number of deaths from COVID-19 was reduced at a stroke by 5,400 people.
    The authorities should have published a daily total from the notification of the first death showing the original ‘flawed’ figure and the correct figure using the new correct measure of a person dying from COVID-19 having been tested positive for COVID-19 with the last 28 days.
    The bosses at the top of the tree in Public Health England should be sacked for this failure but they will probably be rewarded with a knighthood.
    Of course just because someone tested positive for Covid-19 during the 28 days prior to their death it still doesn't mean Covid-19 was necessarily the cause of death. The figures are massively flawed and the only deaths to count, from the very start, should have been the ones where Covid-19 has been the primary cause of death, i.e. an otherwise healthy individual, or where it has significantly worsened an existing illness that resulted in death i.e. individuals with serious respiratory conditions such as COPD for example.

    Instead we have instances of people testing positive on 1st of the month, showing no symptoms then dying in a car accident on the 27th being classified as a Covid death - total nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Of course just because someone tested positive for Covid-19 during the 28 days prior to their death it still doesn't mean Covid-19 was necessarily the cause of death. The figures are massively flawed and the only deaths to count, from the very start, should have been the ones where Covid-19 has been the primary cause of death, i.e. an otherwise healthy individual, or where it has significantly worsened an existing illness that resulted in death i.e. individuals with serious respiratory conditions such as COPD for example.

    Instead we have instances of people testing positive on 1st of the month, showing no symptoms then dying in a car accident on the 27th being classified as a Covid death - total nonsense.
    And we have people testing positive on the 1st of the month, never leaving hospital, dying on the 30th....and it isn’t counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    And we have people testing positive on the 1st of the month, never leaving hospital, dying on the 30th....and it isn’t counted.
    It would be on their death certificate as either cause or contributory factor so likely will be counted.

    I see your point though.

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