Blunts Want Odour

[pass_and_move]

You see this is why fans getting fecking angry .

Which clown thought it was a good idea to buy him with a 50% fecking sell on clause attached .

The model is difficult to live with at the best of times but things like this proper pyss me off .

Mark this down as Moncur to Luton and Moore to Wigan .


Dear me .

Depends on how badly you want to sign a young player. Sometimes it's worth a crazy deal such as this if you're gonna get some service art o him,otherwise tha paying top dollar for an 18 year old.

Gerry Taggart came here from Manchester city as a young prospect with a huge sell on clause attached, I believe it was around 50% but we ed 5 seasons good service art o him and he helped push this club on at this level

[DOOALI]

We wouldn't have got him without agreeing to a big sell on I imagine also we've had our monies worth of the fee we paid that goal at brentford netted £7-8 million + whatever we sell him for

[animallittle3]

I understand you both Pass and Dooali and you make sound points .

However this model has to work for us too and some of our decisions within it leave much to be desired .

We have to stop being a fecking pushover which I think is a fair comment .

Peterborough have just got £10m for Toney who scored a decent amount of goals in league one .

Well so did Moore didn't he and they are both around the same age .

Fecking hell Moore would have got a few on top if he'd played 46 games .

We never seem to come away from these things very well .

[SBRed48]

If we sell Oduor, or anyone, the fee is "Undisclosed" and nearly always paid in stages. If we lose 50% of Oduor's fee to Leeds we'll end up wi bugger all. Just enough maybe to buy a promising youngster from Austria who was always our No 1 Target anyway, and is much better than Oduor, who was crap anyway and not bothered.

Can we employ Peterborough's negotiators. Have they sold a player for under £6 million yet ? Barnsley fans whoop with joy and fall at Paul's feet to wash them if we get anything near £2 million for a player.

[Barnsley Chop]

If we sell Oduor, or anyone, the fee is "Undisclosed" and nearly always paid in stages. If we lose 50% of Oduor's fee to Leeds we'll end up wi bugger all. Just enough maybe to buy a promising youngster from Austria who was always our No 1 Target anyway, and is much better than Oduor, who was crap anyway and not bothered.

Can we employ Peterborough's negotiators. Have they sold a player for under £6 million yet ? Barnsley fans whoop with joy and fall at Paul's feet to wash them if we get anything near £2 million for a player.

Was just thinking the same earlier this morning about Peterborough SB and yet a lot of Barnsley fans love having a go at their owner Darragh MacAnthony

[DOOALI]

I can't see if true blunts even paying £2 million for someone at his age with potential surely theýve already got young 'uns with the same potential it's a pointless signing

[animallittle3]

One or two saying he's a £5m player on bbs , in my opinion he isn't .

I think he's 19 games behind him whose played primarily as a left back , tha dunt tend to get the bigger money for left backs and he's alreight don't get me wrong but he's promising at best .

He's not John Stones by any means who you could see was destined for the top .

He's abart in Mason Holgate territory who we could only get a million for .

So as I keep saying tha's to build the deal up to mek it summat we can at least accept , there's absolutely no reason why the blunts can't loan him back , he ain't going to break in to their team this season , he aint even a regular for us .

We not going to mek hardly owt art of it financially by the looks of it so tha needs a good sell fee attached , loan him back and £3m minimum for this to tick any kind of box .

[perkytyke]

Don’t get me wrong as I am by no means a fan of Conway and co or the model we employ at Oakwell, but you can only go so far in comparing our transfer dealings with Peterborough?
We get players in who the owners think will progress to be Championship players and possibly Premier League players eventually and they cost more than the players Peterborough go for who may make it in League One and hopefully progress further!
That’s why we play in the Championship and if relegated come back with the same players and why Peterborough get stuck in League One.
The down side to that is we have to have clauses in contracts to get the players in the first place where Posh don’t because their players are not thought to be as good, so when they do get a high flyer they get all the cash!
Having said this MacAnthony sets his stall out because it’s his money not the consortium’s and we should hold out for better offers but we are Barnsley it isn’t what we do, it’s as if they want football to know we sell easily so it attracts clubs directly to us?

[animallittle3]

Don’t get me wrong as I am by no means a fan of Conway and co or the model we employ at Oakwell, but you can only go so far in comparing our transfer dealings with Peterborough?
We get players in who the owners think will progress to be Championship players and possibly Premier League players eventually and they cost more than the players Peterborough go for who may make it in League One and hopefully progress further!
That’s why we play in the Championship and if relegated come back with the same players and why Peterborough get stuck in League One.
The down side to that is we have to have clauses in contracts to get the players in the first place where Posh don’t because their players are not thought to be as good, so when they do get a high flyer they get all the cash!
Having said this MacAnthony sets his stall out because it’s his money not the consortium’s and we should hold out for better offers but we are Barnsley it isn’t what we do, it’s as if they want football to know we sell easily so it attracts clubs directly to us?

For me personally Perky they don't see the market they are operating in too well or the true value of the product they are selling .

They look at the fee we paid for the player and if it can be doubled that's good enough for them .

It's basically market trading logic , tha buys thi toilet roll at a £1 for 4 rolls and flogs it for £2 .

This business doesn't operate like that , it's far more complex .

They may think they've got a handle on recruitment and even that's debatable but they sure as hell ain't got the selling part covered .

Neither did Patrick Cryne either , the father of this model for balance .

We come away almost every time the poorer when we sell a player and that's not how this is meant to work .

The only one who fly's off the middle of the bat is selling Bradshaw and buying Woodrow in recent times .

Are Sollbauer and Andersen better than Pinnock or Lindsay ? , extremely debatable .

Is Mowatt better than Hourihane ? , absolutely not .

Is Schmidt better than Moore ? , not at this point in time he isn't .

Was Jordan Green better than Potts ? , that's a real no brainer .

The total sales from the above amounted to around £12m , that's £2m more than Peterborough got for Toney .

And yet look at the devastation on the field , the loss of tv revenue and you could have added a further £7m to that in any other season than the one we've just witnessed .

I think the term is " must do better " because the sales dictate the quality of players you can recruit back in to the football club as a self sustainable model .

The sales are king .

[SBRed48]

We are a development parnd shop for clubs to pick off the shelves the player they fancy.

We stock up with young players, the more the better. Twelve last summer made it the best ever. Put them all on 4 year contracts, sell after two years development. Regular Clearance Sales of duds left on shelves gathering dust.

The effect of a transfer on the team's football ambitions is irrelevant.

#Profit Before Ambition