M-m-m-my Corona…

[Aldo1983]

The ban on visiting other people's dwellings will have an economic impact in Strathclyde given the reliance that a considerable number of its residents have on housebreaking and burglary for employment.

Is housebreaking and burglary not the same thing?

[Mason89]

Can you please explain why transmitting the disease in one city (via housing issues) and transmitting the disease in another city (via pubs) is anything other than transmitting the disease. Therefore why would one city have a travel ban applied (and a housing restriction applied when that wasn't a clinically defined issue) but the other not when the issue is transmission of the disease. The issue of different cities with different problems boils down to transmission of the disease and how to stop it. One was treated differently from the other. To ask why is a very appropriate question.

The answers to all that can be found within the government guidelines. Unless anyone knows any better than the clinical advice they’re receiving, then it’s probably best to follow it.

[Mason89]

What concerns me, and how I prioritise my concerns, is no business of yours. In response, however, to your point, if the closure of the ENTIRE hospitality industry in Aberdeen was the consequence of the recent Covid-19 resurgence in Aberdeen and, shortly thereafter, Greater Glasgow then gets off, in not dissimilar circumstances, with its ENTIRE hospitality industry remaining open, then I have quite legitimate concerns. People’s livelihoods, businesses, jobs and futures are ultimately at stake and Aberdeen has taken a double hit of late. The “perceived Weegie bias” as you flippantly refer to is, in my view, real, extremely unfair and politically motivated.

Moonhowling nonsense

[afc1903mad]

Moonhowling nonsense

Not really a good debatable response though is it.

As I read so where else, “Someone in the lockdown areas around Glasgow cannot go next door to their mates, but can pop round the corner to the pub together”

It’s ludicrous really

[Jupiter]

It’s the confidence that you trot out this pish that is really impressive.

Official statistics, not pish

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...stered-by-week

[Aldo1983]

Not really a good debatable response though is it.

As I read so where else, “Someone in the lockdown areas around Glasgow cannot go next door to their mates, but can pop round the corner to the pub together”

It’s ludicrous really

It's to stop the mongos having house parties and not observing any social distancing at all. The recent outbreaks at the schools were all linked to house parties, not to pubs. Were the outbreaks in Aberdeen not linked to pubs?

[InversneckieDob]

The capitalist virus seems to be quite divisive.

Shame.

[sonofrgmsdad]

The answers to all that can be found within the government guidelines. Unless anyone knows any better than the clinical advice they’re receiving, then it’s probably best to follow it.

Except it's not is it? The guidelines are clear but the evidence behind the political decisions are not revealed. Hence we have a situation where similar issues (the disease is being transmitted) but different solutions are applied without any explanation why.

[Don Julio]

Official statistics, not pish

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...stered-by-week

Hmmm. An interesting stat but not cut and dried I don't think. For at least 2 reasons:

1. The underlying text says, "Figures for Influenza and Pneumonia represent where either of these causes have been mentioned anywhere on the death certificate meaning they will not neccessarily be the underlying cause of death". Various things come out of that, including that these are not just flu deaths, but include pneumonia. Related to which,

2. Following the recent changes to how COVID deaths are registered, anyone dying more than 28 days after testing positive for COVID is no longer registered as a COVID death. So you might expect to see an increase in deaths recorded under related causes such as pneumonia. That possibility might be seen as borne out by the fact that flu and pneumonia deaths are up compared to the norm for the time of year.

All of which means it's very hard to tell. But there's no doubt the death rate has come down enormously since the peak. As said before, I think it will only be at the end of the year when we have the total excess deaths number that we'll be able to see the overall impact of COVID.

As you were.

[57vintage]

Is housebreaking and burglary not the same thing?

I suppose in some cases they will be, but if Jimmy the Jemmy and Roddy the Proddy broke into a Strathclyde toiletries warehouse (an unlikely scenario, I'm sure you'll agree), wouldn't that be burglary rather than housebreaking, as the locus would not be a domestic dwelling?

Probably.