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    This isn't the 1970s Oz. We have an Italian owner, Argentinian manager, so likely the internationals will understand more what the manager is asking of them.
    With regards Harrison (and White and more), we couldn't afford them so we used the loan system and they were integral to getting us promoted . This is a route many clubs have used to get to the Premiership. Since the Bosman rule came in it has turned the transfer market on its head (add in agents).
    We have been developing our underage academy it is now Category 1, the highest... This means another club cannot just come along and take a promising player based on them going to a better rated academy.

    Trying to get the right balance between buying in experience and developing your own is not easy, you also want the right temperament.

    Putting in too many young kids too early would mean we stayed floundering in the lower part of Championship/Lge 1. As can be seen by last nights hammering of the U21's by Accrington 7-0 in EFL cup. As a category 1 club we were allowed enter the competition, but the requirements about how long players had been at club meant we used many U18's.

    But in a way this shows the strategy of importing young "internationals" to improve both 1st team and the clubs youth grading is working. Now they can look to develop local players too in better facilities without the fear of them being hoovered up for pittance.

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    Watkins signed for Villa for big transfer fee and big wages. Looks like de Paul deal getting like the Ben White saga but Gvardiol deal may get done today.

    Agree with comments about our youth set up and path to first team getting so much better. The next few years could see us reaping the rewards of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    Watkins signed for Villa for big transfer fee and big wages. Looks like de Paul deal getting like the Ben White saga but Gvardiol deal may get done today.

    Agree with comments about our youth set up and path to first team getting so much better. The next few years could see us reaping the rewards of that.
    Villa fans/board seemingly think we are going to do a Fulham and come straight back down after we paid 26 million for Spain's current number 9 and they go and blow 28 million quid on a Championship player.

    Interesting.

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    No prob Spaldy, getting the youth set up right means we can attract the most promising players, looking good longer term.

    Villa ha Rev. We have a smaller squad to start with and have retained them all, not got rid of all the players who got us promoted as Fulham did.
    Though I do expect an exodus from the class of 2019 gradually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitestomper45 View Post
    This isn't the 1970s Oz. We have an Italian owner, Argentinian manager, so likely the internationals will understand more what the manager is asking of them.
    With regards Harrison (and White and more), we couldn't afford them so we used the loan system and they were integral to getting us promoted . This is a route many clubs have used to get to the Premiership. Since the Bosman rule came in it has turned the transfer market on its head (add in agents).
    We have been developing our underage academy it is now Category 1, the highest... This means another club cannot just come along and take a promising player based on them going to a better rated academy.

    Trying to get the right balance between buying in experience and developing your own is not easy, you also want the right temperament.

    Putting in too many young kids too early would mean we stayed floundering in the lower part of Championship/Lge 1. As can be seen by last nights hammering of the U21's by Accrington 7-0 in EFL cup. As a category 1 club we were allowed enter the competition, but the requirements about how long players had been at club meant we used many U18's.

    But in a way this shows the strategy of importing young "internationals" to improve both 1st team and the clubs youth grading is working. Now they can look to develop local players too in better facilities without the fear of them being hoovered up for pittance.
    I know that stomper that's why I said the whole world of football is like it is. Even the local league here imports has-beens from other countries so you won't see many Vidukas Kewells coming through.
    As for developing the underage academy FFS they got beat 7-0 need more than to develop them need a miracle.(and yes i know most were under 18S) still a shock though.
    Like you say times have changed but ask many of your countrymen if they prefer to see all English player teams or the state the clubs are in which do you think they would prefer?
    England won 1 nill thanks to a penalty and a missed penalty form the other team and couldn't even beat Denmark that is the state football is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozleeds View Post
    I know that stomper that's why I said the whole world of football is like it is. Even the local league here imports has-beens from other countries so you won't see many Vidukas Kewells coming through.
    As for developing the underage academy FFS they got beat 7-0 need more than to develop them need a miracle.(and yes i know most were under 18S) still a shock though.
    Like you say times have changed but ask many of your countrymen if they prefer to see all English player teams or the state the clubs are in which do you think they would prefer?
    England won 1 nill thanks to a penalty and a missed penalty form the other team and couldn't even beat Denmark that is the state football is in.
    Oz you should listen to the interview with the Accy manager, who praised mostly young kids sticking in there against a senior and more physical league 1 side. The rules state you have to have been training at the club 3 years hence the changes and dependency on U18s

    John Coleman interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitestomper45 View Post
    Oz you should listen to the interview with the Accy manager, who praised mostly young kids sticking in there against a senior and more physical league 1 side. The rules state you have to have been training at the club 3 years hence the changes and dependency on U18s

    John Coleman interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
    Jesus who makes stupid rules like that. If you belong to a club and get paid by the said club you should be allowed to play.

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