Today's team

[LawSteelman]

Not caring about games against the Old Firm is exactly why we constantly see gutless and naive performances like today. Back in the 90s when Rangers in particular had better teams than they do now we regularly gave them a game and often beat them. I'm not expecting us to compete with them over the season and challenge for the title but we never give them a game of it anymore and our attitude to these games is all wrong. Other teams are able to beat them in one off games yet we roll over every single time, it's pathetic.

[Handsome_Devil]

Not caring about games against the Old Firm is exactly why we constantly see gutless and naive performances like today. Back in the 90s when Rangers in particular had better teams than they do now we regularly gave them a game and often beat them. I'm not expecting us to compete with them over the season and challenge for the title but we never give them a game of it anymore and our attitude to these games is all wrong. Other teams are able to beat them in one off games yet we roll over every single time, it's pathetic.

Since Rangers returned to the top-flight, there hasn't been a single (completed) season where they've had a 100% record against us. So even ignoring close defeats, "we roll over every single time," is simply not true.

Rangers were better in the 90s but so were we, massively so...the players we had in the 90s which made us good in various spells would never have dreamed of going to the lower end of the English second tier, never mind the third level. We now operate on the level below that - the OF are usually not as good as they were all those years ago but the gap in quality has never been bigger.

The year we lost the cup finals to Celtic, the stat thrown around was they spent 17 times what we did on wages, Rangers this year will be a similarly mental multiple...if you get wound up or annoyed that thumps us, fair enough. I don't.