Our Business Model

[wbaliquidator]

It is my opinion that our owners have decided that the future of our club is thus.

Firstly we have to remember that our owners have no prior knowledge of running a football club, they were guided by the Peoples Republic of China Hierarchy to purchase us. Their only loyalty is to the communist regime and to them it is a business. Now that Sky has changes the arrangement with televising games we are now of less interest to them.

It is just too expensive for us to assemble a squad that can realistically survive in the top division. In the few years they have owned us they have observed newly promoted clubs like Fulham and Villa spend £100M +and at best just survive
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On the other hand it appears that the odds are far more favourable to plan and build a competitive championship side that will achieve promotion and at much less cost.

So maybe their aim it to accept a halfway house scenario. A club that is a major force in the championship, entertaining and pleasing the fans each week.

Then when promotion is achieved do a Norwich spend less to nothing and bank the spare cash and hope to go again.

[baggieal]

It is my opinion that our owners have decided that the future of our club is thus.

Firstly we have to remember that our owners have no prior knowledge of running a football club, they were guided by the Peoples Republic of China Hierarchy to purchase us. Their only loyalty is to the communist regime and to them it is a business. Now that Sky has changes the arrangement with televising games we are now of less interest to them.

It is just too expensive for us to assemble a squad that can realistically survive in the top division. In the few years they have owned us they have observed newly promoted clubs like Fulham and Villa spend £100M +and at best just survive
.
On the other hand it appears that the odds are far more favourable to plan and build a competitive championship side that will achieve promotion and at much less cost.

So maybe their aim it to accept a halfway house scenario. A club that is a major force in the championship, entertaining and pleasing the fans each week.

Then when promotion is achieved do a Norwich spend less to nothing and bank the spare cash and hope to go again.

Don't agree! The owners especially being Chinese will know inside and out how a business model works whether it be peanut manufacturing or a football club. They would have poured over the books inside and out knowing the Chinese. I have worked with many Chinese companies and know their due diligence to business is second to none.

It makes no difference whether the owner is English, Indian or Chinese - if they want to asset strip they will. 100% they will know their intentions from the off and ask yourself - why has Lai not communicated with the supporters - why does he not come to the games and why did Jenkins leave, as for sure it was not just down to retirement. There is a game plan which is strategy!

Lai not spending any of the Premier money will equate to most likely 70% of his purchase price back in his coffers!

Being in business myself - I know their intentions and Mick also in business will probably say the same!

[Titchfieldbaggie]

Don't agree! The owners especially being Chinese will know inside and out how a business model works whether it be peanut manufacturing or a football club. They would have poured over the books inside and out knowing the Chinese. I have worked with many Chinese companies and know their due diligence to business is second to none.

It makes no difference whether the owner is English, Indian or Chinese - if they want to asset strip they will. 100% they will know their intentions from the off and ask yourself - why has Lai not communicated with the supporters - why does he not come to the games and why did Jenkins leave, as for sure it was not just down to retirement. There is a game plan which is strategy!

Lai not spending any of the Premier money will equate to most likely 70% of his purchase price back in his coffers!

Being in business myself - I know their intentions and Mick also in business will probably say the same!

Nailed on! This is how Peace managed to sell to him for the price he did. I can see the spreadsheet now. Pure business

[mickd1961]

Don't agree! The owners especially being Chinese will know inside and out how a business model works whether it be peanut manufacturing or a football club. They would have poured over the books inside and out knowing the Chinese. I have worked with many Chinese companies and know their due diligence to business is second to none.

It makes no difference whether the owner is English, Indian or Chinese - if they want to asset strip they will. 100% they will know their intentions from the off and ask yourself - why has Lai not communicated with the supporters - why does he not come to the games and why did Jenkins leave, as for sure it was not just down to retirement. There is a game plan which is strategy!

Lai not spending any of the Premier money will equate to most likely 70% of his purchase price back in his coffers!

Being in business myself - I know their intentions and Mick also in business will probably say the same!

I can’t fathom Lai out at all.

His best bet was to sell us this summer with us back in the Premier but maybe he thought Covid would butt f u c k the price!?

I think the only reason Diangana and Perreira were bought was because of their sell on value.......a no brainer with Perreira but Diangana is doing his best to ruin Lai’s plan.

Jenkins admitted we were financially stuffed if we hadn’t got up last season so it’s a very dangerous game if you’re using “Yo-yo” as a business strategy.

I think he’ll milk us until relegation to League One if you want my true feelings on this.

[bordering]

I can’t fathom Lai out at all.

His best bet was to sell us this summer with us back in the Premier but maybe he thought Covid would butt f u c k the price!?

I think the only reason Diangana and Perreira were bought was because of their sell on value.......a no brainer with Perreira but Diangana is doing his best to ruin Lai’s plan.

Jenkins admitted we were financially stuffed if we hadn’t got up last season so it’s a very dangerous game if you’re using “Yo-yo” as a business strategy.

I think he’ll milk us until relegation to League One if you want my true feelings on this.

I agree with your take on Lai's plan - premiership money in - not spent- relegation - get good side in championship - get promotion/play offs til he claws back his over-inflated purchase price then Lai can do what he wants

Sell the club , develop the land the club owns.

Whatever he does it won't be to build a successful football club

But hell's bells he will make a profit!!!

And why turn up @ the shrine - to get *******ed by the fans and watch his team get stuffed- well would you travel?


Lai wins all ways , Peace won big time, the only losers are us the fans- but really if you thought any different - you would have to be on your first trip to planet Earth

It could be worse but it would take some serious Machievellian plot- suck it up we are where we are with who we've got

[stripes39]

I agree with your take on Lai's plan - premiership money in - not spent- relegation - get good side in championship - get promotion/play offs til he claws back his over-inflated purchase price then Lai can do what he wants

Sell the club , develop the land the club owns.

Whatever he does it won't be to build a successful football club

But hell's bells he will make a profit!!!

And why turn up @ the shrine - to get *******ed by the fans and watch his team get stuffed- well would you travel?


Lai wins all ways , Peace won big time, the only losers are us the fans- but really if you thought any different - you would have to be on your first trip to planet Earth

It could be worse but it would take some serious Machievellian plot- suck it up we are where we are with who we've got

I agree with most of that. I don't think though that if we go down there will be the will or the finances to mount a serious promotion challenge as the level of quality in the division makes every year harder than the last to go up and costlier.

If come 16 October we haven't signed any one of note and this interest in Grant is nothing more than a smoke screen, I do think that Lai will have looked at the balance sheets and decided to cash in his chips from Sky payments and assets. You can guarantee that Lai's advisors didn't go in to this blind however it looks so the intrinsic value will be there, somewhere.

It is easier to invest at least some money in the hope of staying in this league rather than risking relegation and a rebuild coupled with a lot of wishful thinking as the rewards in staying in the Premier League are clearly greater so on that basis, we should all be wiser as to what the plan is.

No wonder people are falling out of love with the game when foreign investors can effectively ruin clubs with 130+ years of history as nearly happened with Villa and their Chinese billionaire who wasn't. Really hope I'm very wrong but there is undoubtedly a very good reason behind whatever happens next. The lack of signings will not be due to minor differences with any selling club given what's at stake.

[WBA123]

Am I the only one quite chilled out about Lai and how much we are spending? Maybe its because I don't expect him to throw loads of cash at us. I'm quite happy we're not taking financial risks to be honest.

To me, his interest in us is financial and nothing more. There's not much financial interest in us if we are in League 1, so I can't see him wanting to asset strip. Or even wanting us to go down the divisions. His interest is for us to be in the land of milk and honey.

His best bet is for the club to be run sustainably and to get as many seasons in the prem out of us in the next few years as possible. If we are measured this season as we are being, and go down we should have enough financial might to put in a challenge to come back up again. Ultimately, this would mean next season we would be one of the richest clubs in the championship. The flip side to this is if we are very lucky, we might stay up this season, and even if we do this will probably be our strategy next season too.

The other flip side though is if we gamble, spend and go down. If we go down to the Championship in a financial mess, then I really would fear the worst. We could quite easily not return back to the prem for some time.

Spending money on players will help, but it won't guarantee survival.

[Yarmbaggie]

Quite a lot of what you say 123 I can understand and sympathise with. However, I think the big question, still not resolved, is the ongoing debate around how much in a COVID world the Premier league is going to support the Football league going forward.

Usually the teams relegated have huge advantages over the rest of the Championship due to parachute payments, providing they have their players on contracts that see them taking a pay cut on relegation. That is far from certain for next year and if there was to be the case that say there were no parachute payments, or even dramatically reduced parachute payments, then if we were to be relegated this season we could well be in the you know what.

[baggieal]

Am I the only one quite chilled out about Lai and how much we are spending? Maybe its because I don't expect him to throw loads of cash at us. I'm quite happy we're not taking financial risks to be honest.

To me, his interest in us is financial and nothing more. There's not much financial interest in us if we are in League 1, so I can't see him wanting to asset strip. Or even wanting us to go down the divisions. His interest is for us to be in the land of milk and honey.

His best bet is for the club to be run sustainably and to get as many seasons in the prem out of us in the next few years as possible. If we are measured this season as we are being, and go down we should have enough financial might to put in a challenge to come back up again. Ultimately, this would mean next season we would be one of the richest clubs in the championship. The flip side to this is if we are very lucky, we might stay up this season, and even if we do this will probably be our strategy next season too.

The other flip side though is if we gamble, spend and go down. If we go down to the Championship in a financial mess, then I really would fear the worst. We could quite easily not return back to the prem for some time.

Spending money on players will help, but it won't guarantee survival.

Glad you don't run my company 123. Nobody is asking Lai to throw large sums of money at the club but to give us half a chance of staying in the league. This squad is no better than the one promoted albeit two assets are now there from loan deals but we have weaknesses all over the pitch! Pointless being competitive if you don't want to compete at the top! So in a nutshell, I don't expect to gamble but to have a person as shrewd as Bielsa and shore up the weaknesses. I went to Leeds and albeit we lost one nil - we played them off the park. Would we play Leeds off the park now? I doubt it very much so you can see the frustration. Take Pulis - horrible football but we had a damn good defense to his credit - why is our defense poor now? We had Gayle and Jay Rod in the championship but we all know they are miles better than the three nags! Who takes the responsibility for this? Not just in the championship but now four games in - all of a sudden the three are not good enough!! The fans saw this in most of last seasons games!

Frustration too at players who clearly are out of their depth/no good who should have been moved on at the end of the season. Take Zohore on 50 grand a week - would you be shunted elsewhere? So if you don't blame Zohore then what idiot negotiated his contract when the Cardiff supporters said he was s hite before he came to us. I hope the % increase in wages goes down by a huge % if we go back in the championship, but then the assets like Periera and Diangana will be sold.

The club is in a mess and this squad is far inferior and lacks quality from the last time we were in the Premier. Quantum Leaps are needed in life - were Villa any better than us in the championship or were Leeds. Look at them now - as much as I hate to say it - where's our Watkins, Grealish and Barkley!!!

It goes back to the old saying in life - you get what you pay for! Other owners are committed and are passionate about their clubs which is lovely to see. Harrogate will succeed as their owner is not only shrewd with the money - he loves their club too! Lai loves us as much as dog turd on his shoes!

[soulman101]

Football used to be a sport, now it's all about money.
Albion and Burnley have 2 things in common both are founder members and we have earned not brought our place at the top table.
Man city chief is moaning that the Germans take their young players and sell the back 10 fold, he wants the ELF to be full of B teams.
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