Donald Trump

[swaledale]

Ohhhhhhhhh this is going to be good.
Do please elaborate.

He exhibits certain qualities, like not wanting dissent or scrutiny, so packs his cabinet full of brown nosers rather than intelligent capable people, attempts to avoid parliamentary scrutiny by peroguing parliament, tendency to top down centralised control, as evidence by the management (mismanagement) of the pandemic rather than consulting and using local authorities etc. The proposed new planning reforms take power from local people and local elected bodies and hand control to the central government, all recognisable methods that dictators have used in governing.

The attacks on the BBC are a clear attempt to weaken an independent news source that scrutinises the government, a pattern which follows what has happened in Poland and Hungary where the media is by and large subservient to the ruling government.

Then there is the ongoing campaign by right wing media and internet sources which uses false stories and fake news and seeks to present a picture of a country "controlled" by left wing influences whether that be over culture or so called political correctness. To frame the Conservatives as the saviour of all thats held dear by the people!

Your parroting of such falsehoods demonstrates how gullible people are in believing these tropes!

The reason that these made-up stories preoccupy journalists, politicians and the public is that culture-war skirmishes are no longer a sideshow to our politics – they are the politics. They are how rightwing electoral prospects are now advanced; not through policies or promises of a better life, but by fostering a sense of threat, a fantasy that something profoundly pure and British is constantly at risk of extinction. What our most successful politicians understand is the insatiable public appetite for these falsehoods, the wish for these lies to be true – for Britain to be a precious damsel in distress rather than a battered country impoverished by the misrule of its governing class.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Lol...you have half a point, in so much as I’m self isolating at present. Having spent three of the last four weeks abroad, it’s the price one has to pay for, well...’getting out more’. .

Either way, my point was...if the only two motivational speeches that have resonated with you are from eighty and around 400 years ago then you perhaps need to broaden your worldview.

Point of order, Agincourt was fought in 1415, over 600 years ago. Good job you didn't teach history!

[ramAnag]

Point of order, Agincourt was fought in 1415, over 600 years ago. Good job you didn't teach history!

Further point of information...I’m well aware of when Agincourt was fought, but the words were Shakespeare’s and ‘Henry V’ was written in 1599.

[MadAmster]

Breaking the Law. Proroguing Parliament. Ensuring that Parliament doesn't get to debate the vast majority of proposed legislation.

That sounds pretty much dictatorial to me. Overriding Parliament was a tool used by Hitler.

Removing powers from devolved governments to try and stop particularly Scotland going for independence and taking away that much revenue from Wastemonster that England will be all but bankrupt. Not to mention there'd be nowhere tp park the nuclear subs. The latest polls have 60% of Scots now wanting independence. BoJo can't be having that so let's take away Holyrood's powers and also not give them a budget to work to making devolved government virtually impossible.

That also sounds dictatorial.

Don't do as I do, do as I say.

[ramAnag]

Ohhhhhhhhh this is going to be good.
Do please elaborate.

Your turn...it seems to me that MA and Swale have elaborated quite effectively.

[Trickytreesreds]

Lol...you have half a point, in so much as I’m self isolating at present. Having spent three of the last four weeks abroad, it’s the price one has to pay for, well...’getting out more’. .

Either way, my point was...if the only two motivational speeches that have resonated with you are from eighty and around 400 years ago then you perhaps need to broaden your worldview.

No RA the point was, motivational speeches are like unicorn **** and you have to be wary of them.
Sometimes, you don't get the inspiration you wanted for the right reasons.

NB. I to have been in the Canaries/Germany/Scotland(family) and don't find a fraction of your time here every day. Being away and getting out are two entirely different things.

[Trickytreesreds]

He exhibits certain qualities, like not wanting dissent or scrutiny, so packs his cabinet full of brown nosers rather than intelligent capable people, attempts to avoid parliamentary scrutiny by peroguing parliament, tendency to top down centralised control, as evidence by the management (mismanagement) of the pandemic rather than consulting and using local authorities etc. The proposed new planning reforms take power from local people and local elected bodies and hand control to the central government, all recognisable methods that dictators have used in governing.

The attacks on the BBC are a clear attempt to weaken an independent news source that scrutinises the government, a pattern which follows what has happened in Poland and Hungary where the media is by and large subservient to the ruling government.

Then there is the ongoing campaign by right wing media and internet sources which uses false stories and fake news and seeks to present a picture of a country "controlled" by left wing influences whether that be over culture or so called political correctness. To frame the Conservatives as the saviour of all thats held dear by the people!

Your parroting of such falsehoods demonstrates how gullible people are in believing these tropes!

The reason that these made-up stories preoccupy journalists, politicians and the public is that culture-war skirmishes are no longer a sideshow to our politics – they are the politics. They are how rightwing electoral prospects are now advanced; not through policies or promises of a better life, but by fostering a sense of threat, a fantasy that something profoundly pure and British is constantly at risk of extinction. What our most successful politicians understand is the insatiable public appetite for these falsehoods, the wish for these lies to be true – for Britain to be a precious damsel in distress rather than a battered country impoverished by the misrule of its governing class.

Well seeing as it wasn't your question answer, we'll carry on with you.
So BJ is displaying all the traits of the rise of Hitler?
Ok go again comparing the rise of the EU with the Nazi's

[Trickytreesreds]

Breaking the Law. Proroguing Parliament. Ensuring that Parliament doesn't get to debate the vast majority of proposed legislation.

That sounds pretty much dictatorial to me. Overriding Parliament was a tool used by Hitler.

Really? For 2 days before Parliament broke up? I'm sure I recall he did it within the law and not at the end of a gun?

Removing powers from devolved governments to try and stop particularly Scotland going for independence
Oh dear oh dear. Has Scotland recently not had an independence vote.? Should there be a referendum every time the pols show a turn in favour? I have Jock relatives and it isn't all the Brave heart picture painted. Not that I give a **** whether Scotland is independent or not. Again is he doing anything wrong? NO! It was worded a once in generation vote.


and taking away that much revenue from Wastemonster that England will be all but bankrupt. Not to mention there'd be nowhere tp park the nuclear subs. I think you need to revisit the maths school on negative output of the last 5 years. Probably one for GP to explain here as to exactly who subsidises who. Last time I looked, Scotland had £1600 per person spent on it than England,

The latest polls have 60% of Scots now wanting independence. BoJo can't be having that so let's take away Holyrood's powers and also not give them a budget to work to making devolved government virtually impossible. I think you again need to revisit the amount of powers Holyrood gets look at the actual results of that spending. It isn't good

That also sounds dictatorial.

Don't do as I do, do as I say.

Comparing him to Hitler in the running of a country? Are you actually aware that Hitler ran the Reichstag under a one party voting system?
He swept away all opposition, even extreme allies to do so.
Are we anywhere there yet?

Wht makes me laugh at statements like this, is comments like he doesn't the left and far left?
Do people actually realise, that the far left and its ilk want to disband capitalism and all the trapping that come with it, with freedom of rights? Priceless.

Sorry I;'m going out now, so you'll have to wait till tonight for my giggles.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So the sermon on the mount was given 70 years after the death of christ because that is when Matthew allegedly wrote it down?

[Geoff Parkstone]

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Comparing him to Hitler in the running of a country? Are you actually aware that Hitler ran the Reichstag under a one party voting system?
He swept away all opposition, even extreme allies to do so.
Are we anywhere there yet?

Wht makes me laugh at statements like this, is comments like he doesn't the left and far left?
Do people actually realise, that the far left and its ilk want to disband capitalism and all the trapping that come with it, with freedom of rights? Priceless.

Sorry I;'m going out now, so you'll have to wait till tonight for my giggles.

I'm going nowhere this one - don't you recognise when you are being wound up tricky?

The Scotland financial impact of independence I've seen so many conflicting projections I can't interpret who would win. My only comment is that I wonder what currency an independent Scotland would use. Can't have the pound as that would require so many harmonised policies (particularly tax an borrowing) there would be no point being independent, and can't use Euro as not in EU. Can't get into EU as don't qualify as yet. So.....

However if BoJo was the second incarnation of Hitler, he'd get a load of votes for ridding the world of gyppos 🤔