Premier league: Radical reforms in the best interest of clubs, says Rick Parry.

[Grumpy King of the West]

But it doesn't seem like there's going to be any negotiation Grumpy. It seems that they're set to accept this deal which can be revisited by the top six later on. In effect they could come beack and take more in the future when things get a bit tight for them.

They want a maximum of 15 players (but no more than 5 at 1 club) out on loan from any club which means that ther can have other teams paying for their players development. The only option is for them to buy a club through the back door and make it a feeder club.

These aren't football people doing this it's big business men in sport, venture capitalists and the likes. They don't give a shyte about the supporters who will be unable to afford a season ticket to watch their club.

I agree Frogster that the loan proposal is not healthy for sporting integrity. It could be argued that its B teams through the back door. It would certainly lead to a feeder team situation. Then again it was ever thus: when we lost to Dagenham in 2010 at Wembley, we really lost to West Hams reserves.

All that said, it looks like the majority of the PL clubs will reject the plan out of hand, so its probably dead in the water already. Why on earth would Brighton, Burnley, Sheff Utd et al vote for it

[frogmiller]

I agree Frogster that the loan proposal is not healthy for sporting integrity. It could be argued that its B teams through the back door. It would certainly lead to a feeder team situation. Then again it was ever thus: when we lost to Dagenham in 2010 at Wembley, we really lost to West Hams reserves.

All that said, it looks like the majority of the PL clubs will reject the plan out of hand, so its probably dead in the water already. Why on earth would Brighton, Burnley, Sheff Utd et al vote for it

It sickens me to the stomach that most of the owners in the EFL are behind this. The ones that aren't as I can see are Accrington Stanley, Burton Albion, Peterborough and they'll toe the line.

The FA Cup has been devalued by the competing European clubs. The grounds of the big six don't have a soul anymore and are more like tourists venues.

The overspending of club owners has caused this and it's these people who find legal loopholes in the laws they voted for.

There was a review of the state of the EFL. It was recommended by a QC that 3 independent directors should be employed to liaise with the clubs and EFL and the EFL voted against it. It was suggested that they should visit and discuss regularly with each club, find the concerns and formulate an agenda for the EFL meetings. They voted against it and TS said in an interview that they have meeting after meeting and nothing comes from them.

Now they've put yourselves in a position where they're being dictated to by a group of 6 overseas billionaires who don't give a crap about the other clubs apart from keeping their FA affiliation.

The other premiership clubs will be paid off to get this through.

[millertop]

When you look at who owns Liverpool/Man Utd then there’s no surprise they came up with this idea

[caytonmiller]

Said years ago that all the money that is distributed from the powers that be, should be given out equally. All 4 divisions should get a equal share. They are then allowed to spend what they earn through revenue and gates.
So if rotherham income was 10 million per year and share from league was 4 million. That 14 million is our budget
If Peterborough income was 5 million plus the 10 million from sale of players plus 4 million from league then they have 19 million budget.

The top teams would still have the biggest budgets due to income but
It would encourage lower league teams to bring through home grown talent

[WanChaiMiller]

Looks like the owners of PL clubs arent behind it. The Big Project is no more.

[millertop]

Back to drawing board
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54545053

[Silly-miller]

Big project was just a power grab big clubs get to push others around in premiership

Third from bottom in premiership Takes 6th place position in championship play offs

It’s a god dam joke

[CAMiller]

Big project was just a power grab big clubs get to push others around in premiership

Third from bottom in premiership Takes 6th place position in championship play offs

It’s a god dam joke

That's how it used to be in the old days Silly when we got relegated from the 3rd to 4th division.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Looks like the owners of PL clubs arent behind it. The Big Project is no more.

But it’s given them the magic get out clause when lower league clubs go bust

“Well we had a good plan, but you turned it down so don’t blame us”

[flourbasher]

.......And whilst they prevaricate, Rome burns


...or rather Accrington, Burton, Newport.....