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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    If anyone wants or needs inspiration with regards to Black contribution to Science and in particular early Computing and Space then they need look no further that "Hidden Figures" (what a great title), without whom the merkins may well not have got into space and some may well not have got back again. Not only is it about black folk, they are actually women as well.

    An enthralling film and I'm sure an equally good read.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Figures

    Depending on how this post is received I might add a list of some of my favourite greats in different walks of life.
    In this day and age science and technology is largely taken for granted and I don't think people generally care about the people involved regardless of skin colour.
    Music and sport dominates the culture in today's world, and why not? Jazz was the classical music of the 20th century, Miles Davis long recognised as the greatest in that field, Jimi Hendrix as the greatest rock guitarist. Muhammed Ali widely touted as the greatest sportsman of all time, Pele the greatest footballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    In this day and age science and technology is largely taken for granted and I don't think people generally care about the people involved regardless of skin colour.
    Music and sport dominates the culture in today's world, and why not? Jazz was the classical music of the 20th century, Miles Davis long recognised as the greatest in that field, Jimi Hendrix as the greatest rock guitarist. Muhammed Ali widely touted as the greatest sportsman of all time, Pele the greatest footballer.
    Everyone’s heard of Muhammad Ali and Pele, but doesn’t the other thread demonstrate that some people are ignorant about black scientists and innovators? And doesn’t such ignorance inform prejudice?

    I think this is a great idea for a thread and I do want to watch Hidden Figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Everyone’s heard of Muhammad Ali and Pele, .
    That's my point. The things people care about in today's world, the most high profile people happen to be black.
    In science and technology it really doesn't matter who the individuals are, somebody else would have made the discovery or taken that step if they hadn't existed. Artists and sportsman are unique individuals with special talents. Skin colour is just a numbers game, but sadly that's the game we're now being encouraged to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Everyone’s heard of Muhammad Ali and Pele, but doesn’t the other thread demonstrate that some people are ignorant about black scientists and innovators? And doesn’t such ignorance inform prejudice?

    I think this is a great idea for a thread and I do want to watch Hidden Figures.
    You must watch it BFP, I have seen it 3 times one of my favourite films and very inspirational and eye opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    In this day and age science and technology is largely taken for granted and I don't think people generally care about the people involved regardless of skin colour.
    This was the '60's. I was very much into computing, physics, astronomy and space and I had not even heard of the key people involved despite taking an interest.


    Music and sport dominates the culture in today's world, and why not? Jazz was the classical music of the 20th century, Miles Davis long recognised as the greatest in that field, Jimi Hendrix as the greatest rock guitarist. Muhammed Ali widely touted as the greatest sportsman of all time, Pele the greatest footballer.
    I only recently saw a documentary on Miles Davis. Beaten up by a cop for loitering outside a night club. Didn't matter that he owned the club. No charges brought. Incidentally I hadn't realised just how brilliant Miles was and to play a sequence for a film by pure improvisation whilst watching the film - amazing confidence and ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    This was the '60's. I was very much into computing, physics, astronomy and space and I had not even heard of the key people involved despite taking an interest.



    I only recently saw a documentary on Miles Davis. Beaten up by a cop for loitering outside a night club. Didn't matter that he owned the club. No charges brought. Incidentally I hadn't realised just how brilliant Miles was and to play a sequence for a film by pure improvisation whilst watching the film - amazing confidence and ability.
    First time I listened to "Bitches Brew", I felt like a different person afterwards. No other music has had such a profound effect on me.

    Growing up with the original "Star Trek" and Lieutenant Uhura, I assumed black women were perfectly capable in that sphere anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    First time I listened to "Bitches Brew", I felt like a different person afterwards. No other music has had such a profound effect on me.

    Growing up with the original "Star Trek" and Lieutenant Uhura, I assumed black women were perfectly capable in that sphere anyway.
    Captain Kirk for President eh? The issue is do black women see themselves as perfectly capable of that sphere? Or is Beyonce their only role model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Captain Kirk for President eh? The issue is do black women see themselves as perfectly capable of that sphere? Or is Beyonce their only role model?
    White males are now the poorest achievers in UK schools, who are their role models? Would them being taught about Alexander Graham Bell for a month make any difference?

    Coleman Hughers, B.A. in philosophy.
    Why the left is completely wrong about racism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMYQe8OjlA

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    First time I listened to "Bitches Brew", I felt like a different person afterwards. No other music has had such a profound effect on me.

    Growing up with the original "Star Trek" and Lieutenant Uhura, I assumed black women were perfectly capable in that sphere anyway.
    Star trek is still on, you know. Horror Channel 18.00 weekdays.

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