Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior View Post
Pete mate - I hope your daughter will soon be okay,my young son is now back to normal after he contacted Covid 19 in Moscow.How or why we'll never know but your advice is bang on mate,just common sense to some !

Strange how when asked to act responsibly how differing interpretations of any such advice is acted upon nowadays - common sense you'd think would kick in.Maybe it's my age but now I feel more Mary Whitehouse (remember her) than Amy Winehouse.

Blimey,pictures of England's young'un's in groups on the pis$,a weekend demonstration in England chanting for 'freedom' and resistance to local lockdown in Manchester all over French Tv raising eyebrows this morning.Would have troops on streets with rubber bullets & tear gas to be deployed over here to disperse such actions.

MOT - Stay safe all.
As stated in other posts, it's not the lack of common sense that is at the heart of the issues here (at least), it's the inconsistency and selective interpretation of so-called "facts", in particular at the moment regarding local lock-down, and even more particularly in Manchester. The infection rate in Manchester is way below Nottingham (for instance), but no "Tier 3" suggestions have been made for that area, why?

Rates in Manchester have actually fallen in the last few days, whereas rates in Blackburn and County Durham have risen sharply, yet no Tier 3 suggestions.

A Track & Trace application that is fit-for-purpose (and the data generated from said application is NOT ACCESSIBLE TO Plod), testing facilities that actually exist (unlike the one in Kent to which hundreds were sent, despite it not existing!), a testing process which is rapid and effective, clarity and transparency of information and communication resulting from testing results analysis, consistency of the application of measures where the same criteria are met, equity in terms of support for individuals and business impacted by the tiered restrictions, that's what is required, and that is what is significant by its absence, hence the shambles and an entirely understandable reluctance on the part of many to adhere to restrictions they see little justification for.

And if you think that it's right and proper that troops, rubber bullets and tear gas should be deployed, I'm assuming you think that Northern Ireland during the troubles, Hong Kong and Bangkok nowadays are great examples of how a civil society should be "governed"?