Lockdown

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I couldn't even be bothered to respond to 59's post Sub, and I can start an argument in an empty room. The polls have been wrong on every major political vote for the last 5/6 years at least, if Biden wins it will be the first one they've called right in years, they're virtually meaningless these days.

There was one I saw a couple of months ago that said 36% were wearing face masks on the streets. I'd done my own little surveys, to relieve the boredom while Mrs S was shopping, in Clitheroe, York, Preston and Lancaster. I must have counted not far off 1,000 people on 8 different occasions, I found the % wearing them was always between 15-20%, not once did I find more than 20% never mind 36%, I can only assume they manipulate the figures to suit their own agenda, or the agenda of those paying for the survey.

Well, on a personal level, the info I have from people I have chatted to backs up those results. In fact, apart from Clarets-Mad, I haven't spoken to anyone who thinks that we shouldn't have a lockdown. To be fair, I haven't spoken to anyone in the Ribble Valley or Bolton so I haven't got a vox pop for there.

I actually partly agree with you, that we can expect a surge in cases/deaths now that we are entering the winter months. But this doesn't mean that we should throw our hands in the air and do nowt. And limiting contact with each other seems to me to be a very sensible thing to do to stop the NHS/care services being overwhelmed in the very near future.

BT would simply let it rip which would certainly mean that the NHS couldn't cope...alas, a minority of people agree with him. If the NHS/care services collapsed then the impact on our society would be grave.

And yes, there is not 100% consensus between the "experts" on the lockdown. There is not 100% consensus on lots of stuff including climate change. But the vast majority of the Governments advisors have produced very compelling evidence that if we do nothing then the result will be dire. And if you were PM then you would have to be led by them or risk being responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths and the collapse of the NHS . They are our best hope.