M-m-m-my Corona…

[Mason89]

Looks like you failed the interpretation section of the English "O" grade exam. How can you possibly interpret 36 out of 38 patients in ARI (if that is true) being from the central belt as looking out for the NE? Why aren't they being treated in the much lauded and costly Louisa Jordan hospital built for the purpose of treating people from the central belt without the need for travel.

It looks like the P&J have been telling porkies. Obviously realise that there’s papers to be sold to Facebook maws who like a panic.

And they were right

[sonofrgmsdad]

It looks like the P&J have been telling porkies. Obviously realise that there’s papers to be sold to Facebook maws who like a panic.

And they were right

I've no idea if the 36 out of 38 is true or not as noted in my post. Figures came from Donsdaft in previous post in this thread. Where P&J come in only you know.

The point still stands though. You replied to Donsdaft's comment saying that his numbers were to the benefit of the NE and that "Krankie" was the orchestrator of this benefit by banning travel over 5 miles from Aberdeen some time ago whilst not banning travel in the central belt a number of weeks ago. Impossible to fathom any logic out of that.

[Mason89]

I replied to that post before it transpired that the story was utter b0llocks. Apologies. Looks like the shouty one who’s all uppity, with a bad haircut & just a wee bit too female, actually does just hate the NE & closed it down for sh1ts & giggles.

As you were.

[Aldo1983]

Even if it was true...what would be the problem?

[57vintage]

Even if it was true...what would be the problem?

This.

We can all girn about real or perceived anomalies, but where lives are at stake, and a particular region has the capacity to deal with issues of concern, safe transfer is a no-brainer.

[BogBrush1903]

Even if it was true...what would be the problem?

I may have picked up the wrong end of the stick as I haven't read the discussion, but if we're talking about the transfer of patients from the central belt to ARI then there's no issue as long as ARI don't need the space. If ARI are so confident we don't need the bed space for patients in the city and shire during this pandemic, and the Scottish Government is happy to transfer them up here then it begs the question why the City of Aberdeen remains at Tier 2 and not Tier 1.

[donsdaft]

Because it's full of diseased weegies.

[sonofrgmsdad]

Even if it was true...what would be the problem?

Generally speaking, transferring patients across the country isn't a huge problem for the receiving area. (It's a pain in the butt for the patient and their family). This happens a lot with specialist centres around the country (mostly in the central belt)

However, if it is true that patients from the central belt are being transferred to Aberdeen it brings into question the lack of use of the Louisa Jordan hospital in Glasgow. Why is it not being used and is this further evidence of central belt waste?

Of course if patients are not being transferred to Aberdeen for Covid then these questions don't arise. But again there is no information about this. Does this arise because one of our MSP's found that offshore workers testing positive were being allocated to Aberdeen's positive numbers regardless of where they live?

[57vintage]

It seems that ARI has a specialist unit, which, if it has space, should be made available to any patient who needs specialist care. Surely that’s an admirable principle of the NHS? I doubt that medics at ARI and other NHS facilities are professional and caring enough to make decisions based on need, rather than health board area/local governmental jurisdiction/Spinal Tap up-to-5 tier/level or other demarcation.

“ NHS Grampian said last night there was “no link” between the ARI outbreak on Ward 109 and patients transferred from outside Aberdeen. It confirmed a “small number” of Covid-19 patients from other health board regions have been admitted to the National Respiratory ECMO Centre, which is housed at ARI.
But a spokesman for the health board said: “Those patients are collected from their home boards by a highly specialised ECMO team and taken to ARI for the potentially life-saving treatment. We are the only centre in Scotland which offers respiratory ECMO.
“All of our Covid- 19 patients are treated in designated Covid-19 ‘ red areas’, where specialised measures are in place.”

[Aldo1983]

It seems that ARI has a specialist unit, which, if it has space, should be made available to any patient who needs specialist care. Surely that’s an admirable principle of the NHS? I doubt that medics at ARI and other NHS facilities are professional and caring enough to make decisions based on need, rather than health board area/local governmental jurisdiction/Spinal Tap up-to-5 tier/level or other demarcation.

“ NHS Grampian said last night there was “no link” between the ARI outbreak on Ward 109 and patients transferred from outside Aberdeen. It confirmed a “small number” of Covid-19 patients from other health board regions have been admitted to the National Respiratory ECMO Centre, which is housed at ARI.
But a spokesman for the health board said: “Those patients are collected from their home boards by a highly specialised ECMO team and taken to ARI for the potentially life-saving treatment. We are the only centre in Scotland which offers respiratory ECMO.
“All of our Covid- 19 patients are treated in designated Covid-19 ‘ red areas’, where specialised measures are in place.”

Exactly and it's also worth noting that the Louisa Jordan was created for the pandemic level they expected. It never happened (yet) so it's used for other purposes. If it wasn't created there would be calls for people's heads.

That also includes poor bairns from Aberdeen or some family getting cut out cars in the highlands that end up at the Queen Elizabeth.

Not everything needs to be political or anti central belt.