OT Trump prematurely ejaculates

[Andy_Faber]

Oh I know a lot of people voted for Brexit who by any standards were well educated professional people and one couldn't dismiss them as being ignorant. However, in every case when I asked the question as to why they voted for Brexit, being fed up with the status quo wasn't ever one of the reasons they gave. In point of fact every reason they gave was actually not factually true, the most common one though was actually more about preserving the status quo, or at least it seemed that it was thought Brexit would somehow take the country back to a golden age they fondly imagined in the 1950's and early 1960's, which was both not true and not possible.

I am fascinated by how the term liberal has become an insult. Again its this use of a convenient label to cover a range of people who are quite diverse but is used by people who are either lazy, ignorant or both!

I'll forgive you your last sentence into relapse and genuinely ask what the word is then. I genuinely don't know, or maybe there isn't one, and 'liberals' is probably wrong. Bigots feels a bit harsh because as you point out the target demographic is so wide. I'm neither lazy (if I was I wouldn't be doing revenue earning work at 00:13) nor ignorant but on this occasion the word escapes me.

[swaledale]

I'll forgive you your last sentence into relapse and genuinely ask what the word is then. I genuinely don't know, or maybe there isn't one, and 'liberals' is probably wrong. Bigots feels a bit harsh because as you point out the target demographic is so wide. I'm neither lazy (if I was I wouldn't be doing revenue earning work at 00:13) nor ignorant but on this occasion the word escapes me.

Thats very kind of you to forgive me using a set of perfectly reasonable terms to describe people who use words in a negative fashion without actually knowing what they mean. oh and by the way I used lazy in this context, to denote lazy thinking and ignorant I think you've self explained quite well!

Let me use this as perhaps an explanation of the term.

The term ‘liberal’ has come to be used as one of abuse, often without much thought for what it means. I have always understood it to mean a commitment to the values of freedom, democracy, social justice, respect for the individual and protection from oppression by corporate interests or the state. Critics now associate it with weakness, complacency and social irresponsibility and by doing so diminish the fundamental values for which it stands. Politicians and others praise the liberal values for which the country fought two world wars, but rarely apply them to contemporary situations.”