What is going on Brothers Reedtz ?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

What a load of rubbish. Everyone was complaining about Hardy cos he was out there all the time publicly. The owners were praised last season for not doing this even when we were playing well, now all hell breaks loose when we're SEVERN games into the season.
They were very clear last season was about consolidation, which was music to most peoples ears as a lot of people claimed we were going to relegated. We came 3rd chasing down the leaders with scoring a high amount of goals scored and a very good goal difference.
This season was about promotion, it's a strange start to the season and we have been hit more than most by covid, look at Yeovil, rock bottom as one of the favorites.
I imagine the owners are lot more diplomatic than the fans, they work with Ardley and what they saw in their first season was vastly all positive compared to their lower expectations due to the carnage in the summer. Hardy would have sacked Ardley by now, like Nolan last season and we'd be on our third manager before the end of the season and look where that got us, it's time for cool heads,

Why are people comparing us to Yeovil and the like?
Because they are doing 5hite is no excuse for us under performing..!
And why is covid an excuse?
When players had to be tested to let them know they had the virus!
Were they all dropping like flies in training?
NO...They were that severely infected they needed a test to tell them they had it..!
XXX

[magpie_mania]

Why are people comparing us to Yeovil and the like?
Because they are doing 5hite is no excuse for us under performing..!
And why is covid an excuse?
When players had to be tested to let them know they had the virus!
Were they all dropping like flies in training?
NO...They were that severely infected they needed a test to tell them they had it..!
XXX

Two important points are raised here:

'Comparison' to other teams. Is the fact that Yeovil are rock bottom an excuse for us under-performing? No, I don't think, in itself, it is. Having said that, in any organisation, observation is made of where other players are. I am sure that there were plenty of Prem managers who have referred to Liverpool letting in 7 v Villa. That doesn't excuse themselves, but it does look at the wider picture.

At the start of the season, Yeovil, Stockport, Chesterfield, Wrexham etc. were all being lauded as reasons why we could not achieve automatic promotion. So now, as we look at where we are, there is no problem with looking at how they have performed so far.

Covid. I don't know how the players were affected by this physically, so I am not willing to speculate. Whether they were, or whether there were no symptoms there are other effects, particularly psychological. When there are 4 members of the team out with positive tests, I cannot hold the position that the others would not have been affected. We have heard that 7 or 8 have had positive tests.

So, is the fact that Yeovil are bottom sufficient to say that we can under-perform? No. Is Covid? In itself, no. But when when the bigger picture is looked at these are things which should be considered.

Am I happy with where we are or how we are playing? No!
Am I totally dejected? No!

Just 3 games ago, nearly at the end of the game we were top of the league as it stood. There is reason for hope, but clearly we need to improve. Is Neal Ardley the one to bring that? I still think so, but, I am not as certain as I was. He really needs to show now that we can step up.

Final question - Am I easily pleased? Maybe. But I'd rather call it 'Overly optimistic'!

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Two important points are raised here:

'Comparison' to other teams. Is the fact that Yeovil are rock bottom an excuse for us under-performing? No, I don't think, in itself, it is. Having said that, in any organisation, observation is made of where other players are. I am sure that there were plenty of Prem managers who have referred to Liverpool letting in 7 v Villa. That doesn't excuse themselves, but it does look at the wider picture.

At the start of the season, Yeovil, Stockport, Chesterfield, Wrexham etc. were all being lauded as reasons why we could not achieve automatic promotion. So now, as we look at where we are, there is no problem with looking at how they have performed so far.

Covid. I don't know how the players were affected by this physically, so I am not willing to speculate. Whether they were, or whether there were no symptoms there are other effects, particularly psychological. When there are 4 members of the team out with positive tests, I cannot hold the position that the others would not have been affected. We have heard that 7 or 8 have had positive tests.

So, is the fact that Yeovil are bottom sufficient to say that we can under-perform? No. Is Covid? In itself, no. But when when the bigger picture is looked at these are things which should be considered.

Am I happy with where we are or how we are playing? No!
Am I totally dejected? No!

Just 3 games ago, nearly at the end of the game we were top of the league as it stood. There is reason for hope, but clearly we need to improve. Is Neal Ardley the one to bring that? I still think so, but, I am not as certain as I was. He really needs to show now that we can step up.

Final question - Am I easily pleased? Maybe. But I'd rather call it 'Overly optimistic'!

MM and HotLIPS would you like to buy some magic beans , I still have some left from last year...xx

[magpie_mania]

MM and HotLIPS would you like to buy some magic beans , I still have some left from last year...xx

So am I wrong about Covid? And are you right that the players had no (physical) symptoms?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

So am I wrong about Covid? And are you right that the players had no (physical) symptoms?

Yes you are wrong
They said at the time several were asymptomatic etc and showed no signs of the virus..!
If the others were riddled with covid they wouldn't need a test to tell them they were infected.
They would have been in hospital seeking medical attention..
So this excuse about covid doesn't rest easily with me.
Especially when 10 days later they are fit to play..
The games were cancelled because of the threat of spreading the virus,not because the players weren't fit to play.
But don't Waste the chance of a good excuse hey MM..
Now lets see how that grass is today,its looking a bit lush I sence a defeat.
Throw in the fact that they have got a care taker manager and they were going to run through brick walls for him , we didnt stand a chance , it was always going to be a tough one..
I'm sure we will hear words like these echoed by a certain Ardley later today.
And I'm sure Hot lips and his girls will be proclaiming that although Chesterfield are bottom 3 they are in a false position.
Barrow and Harrogate had a poor start last season and look at yeovil ..!
Much love xxxx