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    What lunacy is this, grumbling we got a point against a well established premiership side?

    We had just lost 2 on the bounce and only the woodwork and a good keeper performance for them, salvaged a point.

    Anyone would have happily accepted a point from this game before hand plus we kept a clean sheet.

    Definitely a lot more positives than negatives imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeedsFTW View Post
    What lunacy is this, grumbling we got a point against a well established premiership side?

    We had just lost 2 on the bounce and only the woodwork and a good keeper performance for them, salvaged a point.

    Anyone would have happily accepted a point from this game before hand plus we kept a clean sheet.

    Definitely a lot more positives than negatives imo.
    Bang on FTW !

    As Norfolk White sensibly stated regarding the Millwall,Luton,Stoke days I don't feel we've looked out of place this PL season and quite honestly anything can happen result wise let alone decision wise.

    A few facts for the 'usual suspects' to digest ........ positive facts too.

    This was only Leeds' third goalless draw in 101 league matches under Bielsa.
    Since Bielsa took charge of Leeds in 2018, they have kept 41 clean sheets in 101 league games (excluding play-offs), more than any other side in the top four tiers of English league football in this time.

    Can we have 'considered opinion' before turning on players - some of which are still new to the club & system & are being mentored into becoming better players whilst integrating into the team framework to utilise their own developing skills for the benefit of all,a process that takes time may I add.

    MOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior View Post
    Bang on FTW !

    As Norfolk White sensibly stated regarding the Millwall,Luton,Stoke days I don't feel we've looked out of place this PL season and quite honestly anything can happen result wise let alone decision wise.

    A few facts for the 'usual suspects' to digest ........ positive facts too.

    This was only Leeds' third goalless draw in 101 league matches under Bielsa.
    Since Bielsa took charge of Leeds in 2018, they have kept 41 clean sheets in 101 league games (excluding play-offs), more than any other side in the top four tiers of English league football in this time.

    Can we have 'considered opinion' before turning on players - some of which are still new to the club & system & are being mentored into becoming better players whilst integrating into the team framework to utilise their own developing skills for the benefit of all,a process that takes time may I add.

    MOT
    Seriously MRS O? The players we had have been holding the fort the new ones have done squat. Face it MBs tactics arent working too well at the moment as the experienced managers are showing him up. In today's game, we should have well and truly buried a poor Arsenal side who like MAn city game had a lot of players out. Had a half with one player more and we still couldn't win sad but fact. I don't criticize players simply they do their best but aren't good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior View Post
    Bang on FTW !

    As Norfolk White sensibly stated regarding the Millwall,Luton,Stoke days I don't feel we've looked out of place this PL season and quite honestly anything can happen result wise let alone decision wise.

    A few facts for the 'usual suspects' to digest ........ positive facts too.

    This was only Leeds' third goalless draw in 101 league matches under Bielsa.
    Since Bielsa took charge of Leeds in 2018, they have kept 41 clean sheets in 101 league games (excluding play-offs), more than any other side in the top four tiers of English league football in this time.

    Can we have 'considered opinion' before turning on players - some of which are still new to the club & system & are being mentored into becoming better players whilst integrating into the team framework to utilise their own developing skills for the benefit of all,a process that takes time may I add.

    MOT
    I'll take it that I'm included in the reference to "usual suspects" as I had the temerity to criticise the Brazilian wonderkid Raphina who (according to recent posts from other "usual suspects" was supposed to be our saviour). Seems from both the view of our coach and the rest of the footballing punditry, I'm not alone in my observations. My comments during the match were "considered", against the backdrop of one of our highest paid players getting a team mate booked (Dallas), with a first touch throughout the game that makes my granddaughter a more suitable candidate for the Leeds 1st team, one good pass and one good shot doth not a Leeds 1st team player make.

    If he is "getting into the groove" as Tich put it, then FFS play him for half the game, then sub him for someone who already is? For the first half we may as well have had no right sided play, for all the good giving the ball to Raphina did. All remains the same until 10 minutes from the end and Poveda comes on for Harrison (why?), Raphina switches wing and now other than Alioski we have no threat on the left! (And against 10 men for most of the second half!).

    As Oz has said, the players from last season are (primarily) those who have managed to do what has been done so far (some of which has been absolutely extraordinary I might add, win or lose). Rodrigo of all the newcomers looks to be the business and was very unlucky not to get on the scoresheet yesterday. Koch needs to get his head together and develop some spatial awareness (there was none yesterday, although tat might be a hangover from the drubbing Germany got from Spain, time will tell). Raphina? Paid a kings ransom for some reason or another, result? Meh.

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