O/T:- The Union Flag if Scotland leaves

[sidders]

Wee Kranky will be spitting feathers that we have an agreement (even a poor one). Bet she had everything crossed hoping it would be an exploitable no deal.
I think she will get her mandate for a second referendum but it will be another close call if it goes ahead. Personally, being a strong and emotional believer in the United Kingdom, I was pleased that the first ref went the way it did but I am sick to death of politics (all flavours) and the constant "I say this because, and only because, they said that" so much so that if they want to go then let them fck off, Wales too.

You don't come over as a strong believer in the UK at all, Smiffy. Saying that Scotland Wales can eff off 'if they want to' sounds like Little Englander talk to me.
And what about NI? Lack of a hard border with the Republic must be deeply upsetting the Proddies, who were committed to the same deal as the UK.
It strikes me that none of the constituent countries of the UK are supportive of this deal.
There is so much about this deal still to be found out. For example, Boris thinks he's pulled off a flanker by getting the EU to accept UK driving licences but that doesn't mean that individual states can't impose their own rulings.
Leavers who think the EU owes us a decent deal echo those people who think 2021 will be a lot better because Covid-19 is going away. It ain't.
A remainer then, a remainer still. El Sid

[SmiffyPie]

You don't come over as a strong believer in the UK at all, Smiffy. Saying that Scotland Wales can eff off 'if they want to' sounds like Little Englander talk to me.
And what about NI? Lack of a hard border with the Republic must be deeply upsetting the Proddies, who were committed to the same deal as the UK.
It strikes me that none of the constituent countries of the UK are supportive of this deal.
There is so much about this deal still to be found out. For example, Boris thinks he's pulled off a flanker by getting the EU to accept UK driving licences but that doesn't mean that individual states can't impose their own rulings.
Leavers who think the EU owes us a decent deal echo those people who think 2021 will be a lot better because Covid-19 is going away. It ain't.
A remainer then, a remainer still. El Sid

You do like to make a statement Sidley don't you. I made it fairly obvious that I am disillusioned with the whole political process yet you still feel the need to get your "Little Englander" Guardianista, bigotted ("A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities that are different from his or her own. Mostly, the person's opinions are based on prejudice. The origin of the word bigot in English dates back to at least 1598, via French.") dismissive put-down in.

[sidders]

You do like to make a statement Sidley don't you. I made it fairly obvious that I am disillusioned with the whole political process yet you still feel the need to get your "Little Englander" Guardianista, bigotted ("A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities that are different from his or her own. Mostly, the person's opinions are based on prejudice. The origin of the word bigot in English dates back to at least 1598, via French.") dismissive put-down in.

Now exactly where and when did I call you a bigot? I respect your views, Smiffy, but you just don't come over as a committed unionist.
I also want the four countries to stick together, but like BFP says, can't blame the Scots if they vote to sever links with this inept government.

[i961pie]

Now exactly where and when did I call you a bigot? I respect your views, Smiffy, but you just don't come over as a committed unionist.
I also want the four countries to stick together, but like BFP says, can't blame the Scots if they vote to sever links with this inept government.

Do you honestly think Sturgeon and her supporters would change their opinion if Labour or the Lib Dems were in power or Boris resigned?

[LaxtonLad]

Now exactly where and when did I call you a bigot? I respect your views, Smiffy, but you just don't come over as a committed unionist.
I also want the four countries to stick together, but like BFP says, can't blame the Scots if they vote to sever links with this inept government.

Slippery, do you think the Sawneys might vote to return to the civilised world if a socialist government came to power at the next election? Then out again, then in again depending on who's in power? Or perhaps the electorate are just waiting for Boris to go, and that's it.

[sidders]

Slippery, do you think the Sawneys might vote to return to the civilised world if a socialist government came to power at the next election? Then out again, then in again depending on who's in power? Or perhaps the electorate are just waiting for Boris to go, and that's it.

Not about Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems though, is it? It's about staying within the EU. As Covid and climate change have amply demonstrated, countries need to unite and work together to find solutions.

[Old_pie]

Not about Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems though, is it? It's about staying within the EU. As Covid and climate change have amply demonstrated, countries need to unite and work together to find solutions.

You've got about 4hrs to move over to remain. After that get over and get on with it as your illustrious leader appears to be proposing, or set up UDI in Sid's Kingston.

Pfize is not in the EU. International cooperation existed before and will continue to exist afterwards. hth.

[LaxtonLad]

Not about Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems though, is it? It's about staying within the EU. As Covid and climate change have amply demonstrated, countries need to unite and work together to find solutions.

As bland a statement as you could expect from someone with only a superficial grasp of politics.

[Elite_Pie]

As bland a statement as you could expect from someone with only a superficial grasp of politics.

Personally, I'm struggling as to how someone saying "As Covid and climate change have amply demonstrated, countries need to unite and work together to find solutions" could be described as bland as and superficial.

Should we just fight each other and the best country wins?