OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[MadAmster]

Somewhat odd then that Craig Oliver, Cameron's Director of Communications at the time said, that this idea he never intended there to be a referendum is "a myth". He spent the whole campaign saying he would not lead a Government that did not hold a referendum and was convinced that having one was the only way to stop the Eurosceptics in the Tory party from their divisive actions which had made life so uncomfortable for previous Tory leaders.

Its true that UKIP had made more Tory's nervous and increased the pressure, but the principle reason was to try and put a stop to the decades of infighting that the Tory anti europe brigade had been responsible for.

To say that the Troy's won the election on the back of a promise to hold a referendum on the Eu is disingenuous at best and at worst a rather myopic view of what the UK public wanted - look at the facts on a turn out of 37% the Brexit vote got a positive vote of just over 4%, if it had been the will of the people, then turn out would surely have been higher Clearly not many were of that view and regrettably most who would have voted remain were complacent, not believing that enough people would be stupid enough to vote to Leave and be convinced by what was apparent at the time and what has been factually demonstrated since then to be unbelievable lies and falsehoods.

In short Cameron led the UK into this mess to resolve an internal issue of the Tory party.

Yes he did think you were all thick, again unfortunately that led to a Remain campaign that was less than effective, though as has been shown, Right Wing populists can sway the thicko's in society, backed by those (such as Johnson) who whilst not believing in the principle, think backing it will serve their own personal interests better.

We are seeing this in the way Trump is behaving in the USA and the reluctance of many Republicans to repudiate his actions and words, not because they believe in what he says and does, but because they believe it serves their own interests to do so.


Still you do like fake news, shame that your parroting of it, reveals the gaps in your knowledge.

Reasonable depiction of what happened. If he hadn't promised a referendum, the Tory Party would have been torn asunder. Oh how I wish he hadn't promised that referendum....... the Tory Party would have half the seats it does now.

As for the fallout from the referendum, DC had said he'd stay as PM whatever the outcome. That was a political lie. He couldn't really say "if you vote leave I'll resign", now, could he? Once the result was known, he knew that he couldn't give the negotiations the oomph they needed because he would find it impossible to put his all into something in which he didn't believe. I applauded (not in a literal sense....) his decision to resign.

[MadAmster]

Go on, elaborate on that please, I dare you.
I have recently come back from Thailand. Be going back again as soon as I can.
So what is your accusation?

No accusation, in my opinion, TT. More of an implication. One, again IMO, meant in a flippant and/or teasing manner.

IMO, you really would have to be as thick as Swale believes you are not to have understood that and to know exactly which stereotype is being implied.

IMO, you aren't that thick

[Geoff Parkstone]

Thailand is one of the bigger exporters of pearls and other precious gems to the UK. I presume it is being suggested that Tricky is getting involved in the import/export of jewellery maybe.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Or he is perhaps giving a string of pearls to the local lasses

[MadAmster]

Two good posts

[Trickytreesreds]

Two good posts

Both way off the mark and playing to Swales insinuations. Still I'll wait for Swale to grow a pair and come right out with it.

[AdiSalisbury]

If he goes to Thailand, he just might!

[Geoff Parkstone]

You have just turned the milk in my fridge sour at the concept of Swale with boobies

[swaledale]

If he goes to Thailand, he just might!

No I leave that sort of thing to Thicky!

Its very telling though that he always fails to respond to factual rebuttals of the bull**** fake news stories he posts, but is quick to respond to a vague insult. That sort of overreaction does make one wonder.

[Trickytreesreds]

You have just turned the milk in my fridge sour at the concept of Swale with boobies

Naaw, even a lady boy can find someone that likes them. Swale would struggle on that level even.