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    Just found this on page 17 of yesterday's Daily Mail,

    "SAGA has announced that all customers on it's cruises and holidays will need to be fully vaccinated against Covid19.....all holidaymakers must have received both shots at least two weeks before departure. It is the first cruise line to make vaccinations compulsory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Just found this on page 17 of yesterday's Daily Mail,

    "SAGA has announced that all customers on it's cruises and holidays will need to be fully vaccinated against Covid19.....all holidaymakers must have received both shots at least two weeks before departure. It is the first cruise line to make vaccinations compulsory"
    I know Sinkov....we seen - but is that just to bring back the punters ?...pressure from passengers - the Gov - I wonder ?

    anyway, a nasty dumbass move...and actionable imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
    I know Sinkov....we seen - but is that just to bring back the punters ?...pressure from passengers - the Gov - I wonder ?

    anyway, a nasty dumbass move...and actionable imo.

    Back in summer there was 'political pressure' on the WHO to change their advice on the wearing of face masks, they caved in under that political pressure and changed their advice, although there was no scientific or medical reason to do so. The same sort of pressure will be brought to bear on the travel industry and they will conform. I don't like it any more than you Norder, but we are where we are and there's nowt we can do about it, it's the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Back in summer there was 'political pressure' on the WHO to change their advice on the wearing of face masks, they caved in under that political pressure and changed their advice, although there was no scientific or medical reason to do so. The same sort of pressure will be brought to bear on the travel industry and they will conform. I don't like it any more than you Norder, but we are where we are and there's nowt we can do about it, it's the future.
    yes, it was hard for the conscientious objector - men building the ships to carry their own sons away - women making the armaments...in the hope that their bullets would KILL others, not theirs - and the so-called "enemy" thought the same.....brainwashed into believing some sick game.
    I've heard the words (nowt we can do about it) for as long as I can remember, was a regular from a very close family member of mine - will say the same as I did way back then - We are It, We move It We change It....We begin It or end It....the trouble is...that We pretend It otherwise.
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
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    yes, it was hard for the conscientious objector - men building the ships to carry their own sons away - women making the armaments...in the hope that their bullets would KILL others, not theirs - and the so-called "enemy" thought the same.....brainwashed into believing some sick game.
    I've heard the words (nowt we can do about it) for as long as I can remember, was a regular from a very close family member of mine - will say the same as I did way back then - We are It, We move It We change It....We begin It or end It....the trouble is...that We pretend It otherwise.















    norder --you are wasting a lot of time on here because you should be out recruiting all those that are going to change everything. You may recruit one or two on here, however, they will not change anything, even if they have the desire.
    My question is that if you have sincerely believed that you could change things for a lot of years, why have you not made any further progress? There must be plenty of others who think along the same lines as yourself and wish to change the world so get them all on board and do it. You are obviously up to speed with technology, therefore, it should be relatively easy now toward what it would have been 20 years ago.

    Go for it, don't waste your time on football message boards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    norder --you are wasting a lot of time on here because you should be out recruiting all those that are going to change everything. You may recruit one or two on here, however, they will not change anything, even if they have the desire.
    My question is that if you have sincerely believed that you could change things for a lot of years, why have you not made any further progress? There must be plenty of others who think along the same lines as yourself and wish to change the world so get them all on board and do it. You are obviously up to speed with technology, therefore, it should be relatively easy now toward what it would have been 20 years ago.

    Go for it, don't waste your time on football message boards!

    "wasting my time" - is but a regular conversation for me Sub.....folk have their own heads, what they do or think is of their making - they say what they feel just as I - have no interest in changing paths - try changin mine LOL.....again, just regular feelings in answer to regular questions - nothing out of the ordinary, or life changing - and this isn't just any old football messageboard - which is why the dozen or so others i'm into - aren't related.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
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    I've heard the words (nowt we can do about it) for as long as I can remember, was a regular from a very close family member of mine - will say the same as I did way back then - We are It, We move It We change It....We begin It or end It....the trouble is...that We pretend It otherwise.
    Problem is Norder, the vast majority of the public in this case are actually in favour of 'it', even desirous of 'it'. It being lockdowns, muzzle wearing and next up vax certificates/and or negative test certificates or else. So there really is nothing to be done about it.

    "“He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

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