I'm confused , you said I hadn't answered your question when it turns it did not once but twice?!

You said it wasn't an analogy, when your follow posts show it clearly was. Now you don't know what one is?!

Tbh Ken it's an awful analogy, like when people compare a football club to their place of work and say "if I performed or acted like that at my work is be sacked....". An electricians business is not like a football club.

To try and force a comparison my response would be if an electrician did a bad job I would blame him. However if he came from the same company that had sent two other electricians out to my house and they both did a bad job. I'd start asking some questions about their company and why their boss was hiring such substandard tradesmen.

As for your "is Ardley a good manager" question. Before I've had chance to answer it your already followed up with your thoughts. How about you show some patient and wait for the question you asked once again in the wee hours

I don't think Ardley is a good manager, I think he's an average manager. Pretty standard stuff for our level and the level above.

He's got some clear good points/positives to his management and he's got some obvious bad points/negatives. Again pretty standard stuff.

What he isn't is the "worst manager in Notts' history" as your buddy has previously stated. Now that's a comically bad analysis#noagenda. He's not even the worst manager of my lifetime of recent times.

You obviously think he's a bad manger. So a question back, who are the "good Notts managers' of the past 20 years?

What's your list of "good managers"?