Every day the vaccine rolls out

[TerryTheTerror]

Todays big news for me is that Wuhan was not ground zero for this damn Virus. Always thought it was circulating prior to its discovery there and the Chinese were the only ones who didnt think was just another virus!

Well, that's not really what's being reported. They are saying it didn't come from a lab in China. It's the Chinese that are suggesting it was imported via frozen fish to Wuhan.

[Chick A Saw]

Well, that's not really what's being reported. They are saying it didn't come from a lab in China. It's the Chinese that are suggesting it was imported via frozen fish to Wuhan.

What do you find inaccurate in what i wrote?

From what i remember of the BBC report last night, the WHO have found there was no evidence of animals carrying this virus so no transfer to humans in the wet market, but the virus was transmitting between people there, along with some community transmission, and there are no records to say some mad scientist was working on this virus, or dropped a bottle of Covid in the community just to see what would happen. That led me to summarise that Wuhan was not Ground Zero in this! After that, i am just expressing my opinion that this virus was in circulation before then.

The frozen food suggestion though does carry some weight as there was a family outbreak in New Zealand when they had no domestic cases, with no travel or community transfer, and that was attributed to frozen food packaging.

Although i am inclined to agree with a comment elsewhere about a clean up, there is enough out there for me to keep an open mind as well, especially when this virus has mutated as it has recently.

[TerryTheTerror]

What do you find inaccurate in what i wrote?

From what i remember of the BBC report last night, the WHO have found there was no evidence of animals carrying this virus so no transfer to humans in the wet market, but the virus was transmitting between people there, along with some community transmission, and there are no records to say some mad scientist was working on this virus, or dropped a bottle of Covid in the community just to see what would happen. That led me to summarise that Wuhan was not Ground Zero in this! After that, i am just expressing my opinion that this virus was in circulation before then.

The frozen food suggestion though does carry some weight as there was a family outbreak in New Zealand when they had no domestic cases, with no travel or community transfer, and that was attributed to frozen food packaging.

Although i am inclined to agree with a comment elsewhere about a clean up, there is enough out there for me to keep an open mind as well, especially when this virus has mutated as it has recently.

You paraphrased and said China was not ground zero for the virus but I haven't seen anywhere that this is disputed (aside from the Chinese themselves). Given how infectious this virus is, it seems pretty unlikely it's came from somewhere else first?

[Chick A Saw]

You paraphrased and said China was not ground zero for the virus but I haven't seen anywhere that this is disputed (aside from the Chinese themselves). Given how infectious this virus is, it seems pretty unlikely it's came from somewhere else first?

I dont think i am understanding what you are getting at here?

The only evidence we have to say that Covid-19 "started" in Wuhan is it was discovered there because they sought an answer for the reason they had so many pneumonia type cases. That doesnt make Wuhan Ground Zero, as "given how infectious this virus is", i would add in how readily it mutates means to me that there is too much of a chance that a less dangerous mutation of this virus was in widespread circulation, could have been taken there, mutated and became what it is now.

Yes, i am using could haves in here, but to me, until someone comes up with the definitive evidence to say so, its only a could have for Wuhan being ground zero.

[TerryTheTerror]

The only definitive evidence there is at the moment says the first cases of this were found in Wuhan, no?

[Chick A Saw]

The only definitive evidence there is at the moment says the first cases of this were found in Wuhan, no?

Did i not answer that in my previous reply?

The only evidence we have to say that Covid-19 "started" in Wuhan is it was discovered there because they sought an answer for the reason they had so many pneumonia type cases

The point i am trying to make here is highlighted today with a new mutation discovered in Bristol recently. That is why my belief at this time is, until some point before Christmas 19, this virus could have been circulating freely around the world with symptoms no more than the cold or flu, made it to Wuhan where it mutated and started spreading at a greater rate. Until i see something definitive to change my mind, i cannot lower myself to "Who Smelt it Dealt it!"

On mutations/Covid strains, we apparently had 25 or 26 different strains identified in Scotland during the first wave that were all imported and which we managed to eliminate, and all new infections since August have again been imported. Just now, the Kent strain is dominant here, and there is concern around the SA strain and now very similar "Bristol" strain and their resistance to the vaccines and the ability to spread.