Every day the vaccine rolls out

[GUNBOAT]

WTF are you talking about? I feel extremely sorry for folk in your position and there is no doubt that you should be given the help that you need and deserve.

Why you need to attack teachers for fighting their own corner doesn't make sense. They've got a good, strong, organised union that looks out for their interests - how does that impact your situation? Divide and rule seen to be working here. Blame another group that are a bit better off than you rather than the folk at the top who are running the show.

I am an independence supporter but I would put a fair bit of the blame on the Scottish government for the decline in our education standards. They seem to be looking to the Scandinavian countries for ideas as to how to improve our education system but a lot of the ideas don't work because we have many more social problems than they do.

And having a go at teachers because they don't do a physical job and calling them snowflakes is something worthy of the Daily Mail.

Its worth remembering what started this debate in the first place and its the sense of entitlement of the teaching unions that their members should be allowed to skip the Q because they are special.
My only problem with that is it could derail the vaccine rollout in Scotland and lead to more deaths in higher age groups because 25 year old teachers with no underlying health conditions were prioritised for vaccine's they do not require just now.
That's WTF i am talking about.

[AraBrian]

Its worth remembering what started this debate in the first place and its the sense of entitlement of the teaching unions that their members should be allowed to skip the Q because they are special.
My only problem with that is it could derail the vaccine rollout in Scotland and lead to more deaths in higher age groups because 25 year old teachers with no underlying health conditions were prioritised for vaccine's they do not require just now.
That's WTF i am talking about.

As have said before young lass is a teacher and she agrees older and more vulnerable should get vaccine before her she says other teachers she knows agrees also .So not all teachers think they should skip queue think it is more the union that think they are special.Older and more vulnerable teachers will get treated earlier like everyone else.

[GUNBOAT]

As have said before young lass is a teacher and she agrees older and more vulnerable should get vaccine before her she says other teachers she knows agrees also .So not all teachers think they should skip queue think it is more the union that think they are special.Older and more vulnerable teachers will get treated earlier like everyone else.

100% agree with the above and very glad its from a teachers father,i of course have no problem with teachers but have never had much time for the EIS,my memory is shocking but i will always remember the first i ever knew about the unions in childhood was being on unofficial holidays from school due to the EIS.

[Chick A Saw]

100% agree with the above and very glad its from a teachers father,i of course have no problem with teachers but have never had much time for the EIS,my memory is shocking but i will always remember the first i ever knew about the unions in childhood was being on unofficial holidays from school due to the EIS.

As the husband of a member of support staff who is not an EIS member, i would like to see all school staff vaccinated.

And the EIS is not the only union who is trying to make the case for this. Various police unions and federations are putting their cases forward.

The thing is though, the ones we rarely hear a voice from are the Taxi Drivers, Bus Drivers, Shop Workers. and it is us who should start to shout if things change and they are forgotten about.

As to slowing things down, i have my doubts on that as Cohort 6 that is being dealt with just now, i believe quite rightly doubled in size overnight to include carers and their immediate families, and i expect some of these are harder to identify than lists that are sitting in HR departments.

[GUNBOAT]

I have always said that bus and especially taxi drivers were at much higher risk than teachers and it would be interesting to see the death rates between these groups of workers.
Its possible i'm way off the mark but i think many more drivers than teachers have contracted the virus in their working environment,i would also say that factory,call centre and other office workers were also at a higher risk than those in the teaching profession.

[AraBrian]

I have always said that bus and especially taxi drivers were at much higher risk than teachers and it would be interesting to see the death rates between these groups of workers.
Its possible i'm way off the mark but i think many more drivers than teachers have contracted the virus in their working environment,i would also say that factory,call centre and other office workers were also at a higher risk than those in the teaching profession.

There are also electricians joiners plumbers etc who have to enter peoples home business's hospitals etc to do work.Who is going to say a teacher should be vaccined before any of them?Think every person would have to fill in a form to say why they should jump the queue which would only lead to longer waits.The way they are doing it is probably the fairest but not perfect people like me getting it before others who are at more risk through there work or fitness etc is not Ideal but think they have went for best they can to safe those most in danger of death.

[GUNBOAT]

There are also electricians joiners plumbers etc who have to enter peoples home business's hospitals etc to do work.Who is going to say a teacher should be vaccined before any of them?Think every person would have to fill in a form to say why they should jump the queue which would only lead to longer waits.The way they are doing it is probably the fairest but not perfect people like me getting it before others who are at more risk through there work or fitness etc is not Ideal but think they have went for best they can to safe those most in danger of death.

Good post and its correct the vaccine rollout would be severely disrupted with the unions fighting like phuck about whose workers were more important to the country.
You would then get the Tories and their press slagging off the FM and blaming her for the vaccination programme going tits up,FACT.

[tHeArAb]

I have always said that bus and especially taxi drivers were at much higher risk than teachers and it would be interesting to see the death rates between these groups of workers.
Its possible i'm way off the mark but i think many more drivers than teachers have contracted the virus in their working environment,i would also say that factory,call centre and other office workers were also at a higher risk than those in the teaching profession.

Mortality rate for men & women in England & Wales. Taxi drivers in another article sit at 101 with bus drivers at 70.

[GUNBOAT]

Mortality rate for men & women in England & Wales. Taxi drivers in another article sit at 101 with bus drivers at 70.

So much for the hospitality bosses who are never off Radio Scotland saying they have virtually no cases in restaurant's etc.

[GUNBOAT]

As the husband of a member of support staff who is not an EIS member, i would like to see all school staff vaccinated.

And the EIS is not the only union who is trying to make the case for this. Various police unions and federations are putting their cases forward.

The thing is though, the ones we rarely hear a voice from are the Taxi Drivers, Bus Drivers, Shop Workers. and it is us who should start to shout if things change and they are forgotten about.

As to slowing things down, i have my doubts on that as Cohort 6 that is being dealt with just now, i believe quite rightly doubled in size overnight to include carers and their immediate families, and i expect some of these are harder to identify than lists that are sitting in HR departments.

I also agree with you that other staff in schools are just as important to the country including cleaners,dinner ladies and support staff.This is the problem though we can probably make a case for millions of workers to be prioritised but this would lead to major problems with the overall vaccine programme which is why they are doing it by age or vulnerability.