O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

Should we redefine what a vaccine is or find a new noun for this substance they're injecting folk with?

A vaccine provides immunity, AstraPfiJanErna don't do that, the only proven thing is that it reduces the chances of you ending up in hospital/ICU with it.

Not sure that’s entirely fair, MA. I don’t think all vaccines claim to ‘provide immunity’.
Those for such illnesses as Measles, Polio and Smallpox seem to, but the annual flu vaccine has never claimed to provide immunity...like the Covid one it reduces your chances of catching it and further reduces your catches of being seriously ill or dying from it...allegedly.

P.S. Exactly the same thought occurred to me GP...but then the radio seems to have been dominated today by our 99 year old DoE being unwell. Maybe public figures matter more than we thought.

[Trickytreesreds]

P.S. Exactly the same thought occurred to me GP...but then the radio seems to have been dominated today by our 99 year old DoE being unwell. Maybe public figures matter more than we thought.

And Sarkozy being a dodgy Leader as well. 1 years porridge

[MadAmster]

Not sure that’s entirely fair, MA. I don’t think all vaccines claim to ‘provide immunity’.
Those for such illnesses as Measles, Polio and Smallpox seem to, but the annual flu vaccine has never claimed to provide immunity...like the Covid one it reduces your chances of catching it and further reduces your catches of being seriously ill or dying from it...allegedly.

P.S. Exactly the same thought occurred to me GP...but then the radio seems to have been dominated today by our 99 year old DoE being unwell. Maybe public figures matter more than we thought.

Not unfair at all IMO rA. Your flu example is, IMO, a red herring. It DOES claim to give you protection from the 3 or 4 strains they THINK will be the most prevalent in the next flu sason. They've already decided which strains will be in the flu jab come Oct/Nov this year and are actively manufactiring it. You won't get the strains in the jab but you are wide open to all other strains.......

[ramAnag]

Not unfair at all IMO rA. Your flu example is, IMO, a red herring. It DOES claim to give you protection from the 3 or 4 strains they THINK will be the most prevalent in the next flu sason. They've already decided which strains will be in the flu jab come Oct/Nov this year and are actively manufactiring it. You won't get the strains in the jab but you are wide open to all other strains.......

You’re usually very well informed so I won’t argue too much. Imo the flu vaccine provides partial protection which depends, as you say on the ‘strains’, and on other factors like age, general health and level of fitness etc. Fine lines.