THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[PedroTheFisherman66]

So Kyle he came in motivated did a great job to turn us around that first season and was unlucky in his 2nd season. But having lost a play off semi final he lost all motivation? That didn't spur him on to go one better the following season?

He let the Chairman's words go to his head, he let the chairman and buddy buy players that he knew didn't suit his style/system, let the squad get out of shape for the start of the season and not properly organise them during an ill advised pre season schedule.

That's why the blame has to be shared, his lack of motivation (?) cost us all out momentum.

Ardley failed no doubt about it. As did Nolan that season badly and as did Kewell albeit to a lessor extent. They all failed but nobody failed us more than the chairman that year. He had a shocker.

Sol Campbell is clearly a fantastic manager so we shouldn't be surprised that he worked a miracle. You only have to see what's happened to Macclesfield Town (RIP) and Southend United since he left both clubs.

No one disagrees that Hardy was a fool.
Is there any one on here that disputes that..
Shall we have a poll?
Your being unfair on kewell he had no transfer window to transform his squad.
Sol Walked away from mac lads because of their money worries.
But anyway if you are pointing out hes such a rubbish manager, how did he manage to outwit our tactical genius that was and still is NA.?
I'm not really sure what your point about sol is, he saved his team from relegation but our genius didn't..

[countygump]

Most of the players that were ‘out of shape’ ect were not used in the 2nd half of the season, Ardley signed pretty much a whole new team. Like I’ve said he may do well elsewhere, he just hasn’t and will continue not to do well at Notts.

If Ardley is such a great manager, who had an impossible task to keep us up ect, why hasn’t a EFL club snapped him up from little old Notts County? Why didn’t a club take him last summer when he was out of contract?

Here’s the thing right, you will point out Ardley had it tough ect, I will point out that if we had a genuine firefighter, somebody in the Steve Cotterill mould we would have stayed up I’m 100% sure of it.

Ardley had it tough ect do me a favour. Charlie McParland, and Steve Thompson worked with pennies compared to the backing Ardley has received, yet both never relegated us to non-league football.

These points been made before, 'ad nauseam'. We've had many, many period of crisis as a club, we've had many, many poor managers. But there's only one who has ever managed to get us relegated from the FL. To blame a crisis or a lack of money for Adley's inability to keep us in the FL just doesn't wash for me and for many others. I don't blame him fully for our relegation, he's just 99% culpable and I'm being generous towards him cos he's a nice chap. Normally I'd have said he deserved 99.99% of the blame.

[uysapie]

These points been made before, 'ad nauseam'. We've had many, many period of crisis as a club, we've had many, many poor managers. But there's only one who has ever managed to get us relegated from the FL. To blame a crisis or a lack of money for Adley's inability to keep us in the FL just doesn't wash for me and for many others. I don't blame him fully for our relegation, he's just 99% culpable and I'm being generous towards him cos he's a nice chap. Normally I'd have said he deserved 99.99% of the blame.

And his tactics blew our chance of an immediate return.

[laddo]

No one disagrees that Hardy was a fool.
Is there any one on here that disputes that..
Shall we have a poll?
Your being unfair on kewell he had no transfer window to transform his squad.
Sol Walked away from mac lads because of their money worries.
But anyway if you are pointing out hes such a rubbish manager, how did he manage to outwit our tactical genius that was and still is NA.?
I'm not really sure what your point about sol is, he saved his team from relegation but our genius didn't..

If anyone doesn't think he was a fool, I'd love them to step forward. He was so much of a fool IMO that he was ultimately responsible for that season (pre and during) and relegation.

Some people still hold 1 of our 3 managers that season 99% responsible. It beggars belief.

I didn't. He worked miracles at Macc that season, that was praise. I'm surprised he's not in work currently, that's a compliment too.

I agree Kewell was incredibly harshly treated that's all on Hardy nobody else, however his limited record was poor.

They all had awful records, they all failed, they all contributed to or relegation. The common theme between all 3, the manager and his horrific decisions.

[i961pie]

Ardley wasn't 100% responsible for our relegation, but I agree that he should have been given the boot for not keeping us up. Ardley had enough time, more than enough games and he signed way more players to keep us in that division than was needed

Who would have paid up his contract?

[laddo]

And his tactics blew our chance of an immediate return.

Not forgetting the lack of a pre season and proper preparation. It's likely that we were the worst prepared club in the league and boy did it show early doors. That blew out changes of the title.

[crazyfists]

We did ok last season after the pre season. Don't confuse your dislike of him or his tactics with what actually happened. Would everyone have taken a playoff final the day the Reedtz took over? I think most of us would have let's be honest. I don't know why you're still arguing over the relegation season, they ALL failed apart from maybe Kewell, arguing over what percentage 3 years down the line is alot of wasted effort. I just want this season to be over with whether that's promotion or not, either way I'll have a new manager or a new league so be a nice change.

COYP

[MAD_MAGPIE]

We did ok last season after the pre season. Don't confuse your dislike of him or his tactics with what actually happened. Would everyone have taken a playoff final the day the Reedtz took over? I think most of us would have let's be honest. I don't know why you're still arguing over the relegation season, they ALL failed apart from maybe Kewell, arguing over what percentage 3 years down the line is alot of wasted effort. I just want this season to be over with whether that's promotion or not, either way I'll have a new manager or a new league so be a nice change.

COYP

There comes a point where to move on there has to be a general understanding that there is collective responsibility for our relegation out of the football league which involves Alan Hardy, Kevin Nolan, Harry Kewell, Neal Ardley and of course every player that took to the field that season.

[durhampie]

Not forgetting the lack of a pre season and proper preparation. It's likely that we were the worst prepared club in the league and boy did it show early doors. That blew out changes of the title.

Yeovil were in the same boat as ourselves, if not worse. The sale of the club had not gone thru and they only had a few players signed on before the season was due to start..And they still beat us 3 -1 having signed a number of players on Friday before the game...

[maddogslater]

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which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice.

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Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess?



Ye are grown intolerably odious to the posters on NCM. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

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I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place.

Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!