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Thread: O/T Sarah Everard - Collective Responsibility

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    On a dark night ,I wouldn't like to meet some of the women Ive seen fighting off 4 policemen in London,

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Tell that to this ****ing idiot, like I’ve said it’s all not just women

    Green Party's Baroness Jones suggests 6pm curfew for men
    Baroness who?

    Or should that be Baroness Ewe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LincsMiller View Post
    On a dark night ,I wouldn't like to meet some of the women Ive seen fighting off 4 policemen in London,
    Remember that the top dog of the Met Police is a woman

    (Allegedly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Remember that the top dog of the Met Police is a woman

    (Allegedly)
    Does that not make her top b i t c h?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Does the death penalty in America have any positive impact on murder rates?
    probably not but the convicted don’t get to do it again.

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    Should do the same over here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LincsMiller View Post
    On a dark night ,I wouldn't like to meet some of the women Ive seen fighting off 4 policemen in London,
    The main footage on the news bulletins was that they were actually assaulting a Policewoman

    Oh the irony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    In the last 12 months murders of women are lower than the 12 months before that

    For every 5 murders 4 are men and only 1 is a woman

    Of the female killings the murderer was somebody they knew in more than 70% of the cases

    Which makes collective responsibility difficult. What we need is state responsibility to create a more effective deterrent
    I think if you have reached the stage of thinking about kidnapping and killing someone the deterrent isn't going to stop someone that far down the path in their mind. Then again it might do but I suppose it's hard to measure how many crimes haven't been committed unless you survey everyone and they're honest. I appreciate the deterrent argument for other offences but everyone knows if you kill and get caught you aren't getting a slap on the wrist and go do some community service litter picking tripe. That's why I think the horrible truth is there for those who want change, you can change people's attitudes and those who care already to think a bit more but what can you do to stop someone killing? Especially someone who hasn't done it before. Same as people attacking people in the street with knives, you cant stop it, why they do it. All reactionary. Such a sad realism but a realism nonetheless. Doesn't soften the blow for victims but asking responsible people to act responsibly won't stop the irresponsible

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Tell that to this ****ing idiot, like I’ve said it’s all not just women

    Green Party's Baroness Jones suggests 6pm curfew for men
    She obviously talks b0llocks. If there was a 6pm curfew, I very much doubt a murderer would take much notice of it. Could make the streets even more dangerous.

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    You can do want you want but you will not stop these crimes. If someone is going to kill/rape then there's not a lot you can do.
    Hang them, ? yeah, but people will still do it. They do it all over the world.
    Taking the knee won't stop racism no matter how long people support it or draw attention to it.
    Have we stopped bullying at school yet............???

    These women in London should have respect for her and the family not dragging in up in the news again. Some of them weren't there for a peaceful rally, but you get them at all protests.

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