Irresponsible Dundee University students

[Taintedice]

The opposition leader in Scotland, if you can call them that, is Douglas Ross, who is an MP, his party are the UK government and break the ministerial code quite often. Quite a lot of people are recognising the hypocrisy there and not all are SNP supporters. The Holyrood inquiry was always going to be party political, the Hamilton inquiry was not.

[Returnofrros]

The opposition leader in Scotland, if you can call them that, is Douglas Ross, who is an MP, his party are the UK government and break the ministerial code quite often. Quite a lot of people are recognising the hypocrisy there and not all are SNP supporters. The Holyrood inquiry was always going to be party political, the Hamilton inquiry was not.

Mate finds his mate not guilty.

Resign.

[BCram]

The opposition leader in Scotland, if you can call them that, is Douglas Ross, who is an MP, his party are the UK government and break the ministerial code quite often. Quite a lot of people are recognising the hypocrisy there and not all are SNP supporters. The Holyrood inquiry was always going to be party political, the Hamilton inquiry was not.

The point has been made time and time again that Scotland would be different. I think trying to compare the SNP performance which is poor IMO with the performance of the Conservative party in Westminster which IMO is also poor is just reinforcing the need for change through the ballot box. The expression two wrongs don't make a right seems to me to be a convincing case for change rather than a
justification for the behaviour of the SNP in Holyrood or the Conservatives in Westminster.

[Taintedice]

Mate finds his mate not guilty.

Resign.

Are you this bad a loser at golf as well

[Returnofrros]

Are you this bad a loser at golf as well

Yet to find out

[Taintedice]

The point has been made time and time again that Scotland would be different. I think trying to compare the SNP performance which is poor IMO with the performance of the Conservative party in Westminster which IMO is also poor is just reinforcing the need for change through the ballot box. The expression two wrongs don't make a right seems to me to be a convincing case for change rather than a
justification for the behaviour of the SNP in Holyrood or the Conservatives in Westminster.

Are you just going to ignore how the Scottish government is comprised of a civil service which is a branch of the UK setup and takes its direction from Whitehall. Do you think Leslie Evans would have been any more cooperative if there was currently a labour govt? If David Davis was right about anything, it is the lack of an independent Scottish civil service. Labour wanted to keep control of Holyrood from Westminster, though.

[BCram]

Are you just going to ignore how the Scottish government is comprised of a civil service which is a branch of the UK setup and takes its direction from Whitehall. Do you think Leslie Evans would have been any more cooperative if there was currently a labour govt? If David Davis was right about anything, it is the lack of an independent Scottish civil service. Labour wanted to keep control of Holyrood from Westminster, though.

https://theferret.scot/fact-check-sa...s-westminster/
I am not sure if this answers your point. It seems to me that the Scottish Civil servants are responsible to the Scottish government while being part of the UK system.

[Taintedice]

If civil servants aren't carrying out government policy satisfactorily, then they will be responsible to the minister in charge. But a minister can't sack them, not directly, anyway. This is why the UK government paid out £400k to a civil servant abused by Patel, after he was forced to resign and then took the govt to court.

In this case, we're talking about a new procedure for investigating harassment complaints, retrospectively, which appears to have been brought in to stop Alex Salmond getting a toehold back in Holyrood. Leslie Evans regularly reports to her actual boss in Whitehall, Mark Sedwill. The Salmondistas will obviously join the dots there and say the conspiracy could have originated in Whitehall as Evans wouldn't have came up with it herself. And i'd agree with them.

[islaydarkblue]

Islay, Can i ask what is your opinion of people who travelled from one part of Scotland, lets say maybe one of the Islands to the mainland,then staying a few months on the mainland and then travelling back to the Islands during the current stay at home restriction?

Do you think they are above the law?

Would you class them as breaking the rules? Assuming of course none of this travelling etc was for essential reasons?

I assume that you are trying to have a ‘pop’ at me.
We travelled to Dundee on 12th December 2020 to have our annual eye check up at our optician in Dundee because there is no longer a permanent optician on Islay.
The previous one died in his early 60’s from a brain tumour. Yet another person on Islay to die from cancer.
Whilst in Dundee Nicola Sturgeon announced yet another lockdown which commenced at 00.01 on Boxing Day 2020 and we were stuck in Dundee. Eventually we travelled back to Islay as my wife had to get her Covid-19 vaccination which is permitted under the Scottish Government lockdown rules.
You should be more worried about people who have tested positive for the Covid-19 virus and did not self isolate for the recommended ten days.

[islaydarkblue]

Such a person should be put in jail, or at the very least be banned from using the internet.

Tut, Tut and to think I used to stick up for you when your were chief executive of Dundee Football Club.