Playoffs - The mini-league of 6 clubs playing for 5th, 6th and 7th

[optipez]

It's over for us this year Elite. The owners and new manager were too casual and took it for granted that there'd be an upturn because Ardley was underperforming.
Pretty conceited and now we're in a deep hole and still digging.
Personally, I'd relieve IB of his duties tonight and put Doyle and JOB in charge until the seasons end, they literally can't do worse.
As Sidders said yesterday the Reedtz have made a couple of mistakes, sacking Ardley, the timing of sacking Ardley and appointing his replacement.
Think they need to be honest with themselves and face up to the unfolding disaster sooner than later. It sounds drastic but IB will absolutely not take us up this year, Doyle or JOB would have more chance, or at least no less chance.

[Elite_Pie]

It's over for us this year Elite.

Before today's game I was 90% sure it was over, after today's game I'm 95% sure.

But it's the 5% left that we have to cling on to.

[CheltenhamPie]

Before today's game I was 90% sure it was over, after today's game I'm 95% sure.

But it's the 5% left that we have to cling on to.

A true Notts County fan. Hope springs eternal

[jackal2]

A true Notts County fan. Hope springs eternal

For those who want a positive thought: if we do manage to make the play-offs now, it will mean we will inevitably have produced a good run of results in the final few games, and teams that go into the play-offs on a good run of form often do well in them!

[Elite_Pie]

Amazingly we are still odds on to make the playoffs, and as short as 4/7 with Skybet:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football...e/top-7-finish

[jackal2]

It's over for us this year Elite. The owners and new manager were too casual and took it for granted that there'd be an upturn because Ardley was underperforming.
Pretty conceited and now we're in a deep hole and still digging.
Personally, I'd relieve IB of his duties tonight and put Doyle and JOB in charge until the seasons end, they literally can't do worse.
As Sidders said yesterday the Reedtz have made a couple of mistakes, sacking Ardley, the timing of sacking Ardley and appointing his replacement.
Think they need to be honest with themselves and face up to the unfolding disaster sooner than later. It sounds drastic but IB will absolutely not take us up this year, Doyle or JOB would have more chance, or at least no less chance.

I don't think IB will be relieved of his duties anytime soon, and nor should he be. I don't say that because I think he's certain to be a success, because none of us knows what the future may hold even if we think we do, but having made the decision to sack the previous manager and appoint a new one, there is no point doing anything other than give him ample time to develop 'his' team.

It may well prove to be the case that the disruption of changing the manager mid-season has not worked for us in terms of gaining promotion this season, but if the new management team was to re-shape the squad in the summer and get some good results at the start of next season and then kick-on, it could prove to be a case of short-term pain for long-term gain in the way it did for Sam Allardyce many years ago.

A decision was made to go with a new coaching team and we will see over a longer period of time whether it will ultimately be beneficial. To sack the relatively new manager now would be like a return to the chaotic, revolving door days of Trew and Hardy, which was what landed us in the National League in the first place.

[Notts78]

I don't think IB will be relieved of his duties anytime soon, and nor should he be. I don't say that because I think he's certain to be a success, because none of us knows what the future may hold even if we think we do, but having made the decision to sack the previous manager and appoint a new one, there is no point doing anything other than give him ample time to develop 'his' team.

It may well prove to be the case that the disruption of changing the manager mid-season has not worked for us in terms of gaining promotion this season, but if the new management team was to re-shape the squad in the summer and get some good results at the start of next season and then kick-on, it could prove to be a case of short-term pain for long-term gain in the way it did for Sam Allardyce many years ago.

A decision was made to go with a new coaching team and we will see over a longer period of time whether it will ultimately be beneficial. To sack the relatively new manager now would be like a return to the chaotic, revolving door days of Trew and Hardy, which was what landed us in the National League in the first place.

Did you feel the same way about Fullerton?

[jackal2]

Did you feel the same way about Fullerton?

I opposed the appointment of Fullarton before it was even made. If you recall, the rumours about Fullarton broke on this very board 24 hours or so before his appointment was officially announced, and pretty much every poster expressed not only their disbelief that the Trews might make such a poor call, but also their opposition to that appointment if it was true. In Fullarton's case he really was on a hiding to nothing before he even started, because of the complete breakdown of the relationship between the fans and the owners, never mind between the fans and the new manager.

Lazy comparisons between Fullarton and Burchnall are pretty meaningless anyway. Burchnall is a young manager like Fullarton it's true, but he does have prior senior team management experience at two previous clubs, and he has entered a situation where the relationship between the fans and the owners is not generally a fractious one.

I don't think any of us would have predicted Burchnall as the new manager when Ardley left, because we hadn't really heard of him in this country, but the sentiments on this message board towards the new manager were generally welcoming and open-minded. I don't dispute that there has been much disappointment his early results, but a thread posted only last week showed that many posters are still willing to give him a decent amount of time before reaching any permanent judgements, and I think the current owners certainly aren't the type to be dismissing managers after a few weeks.

[Freeman25]

Did you feel the same way about Fullerton?

Fullerton had nothing positive going for him, his football was quite possibly the worst I've ever seen at Meadow Lane, he completely killed any attacking threat that team had and alienated a fan favourite player.

With Burchnall we should have a lot more points on the table than we do if not for our opponents being impossibly clinical, we've shown more attacking threat than the whole of Fullerton's time at Notts and we've outplayed the team top of the table, the Reedtz brothers said he was a long term appointment not an appointment to get us promoted this season so he needs to be given time with the completely unbalanced squad Ardley left him.

It wasn't a great time to appoint him due to the schedule of us having so many games but it's what the board did, Ardley's Notts seemed to be in freefall imo so I'm not sure our league position would be a great deal different nor do I think we'd have a trip to Wembley on the cards, there's no way Burchnall managed to get enough across in one training session to affect the performance against Hornchurch so negatively, it's just this bunch of players love to not turn up.

The comparison's with Fullerton need to stop, they're nothing alike

[Notts78]

I was only asking the question chaps. Thanks for answering though.