How to sell Season Tickets

[hmac]

It's only the first 300,the foundation pay the rest...

Fair point.

[hmac]

Depends on how you look at it. For me, Tim Keyes is responsible for the CEO and will set his pay. The club need to get selling more ST'S, surely you don't disagree with that, so what can be done. Cutting costs is merely masking the problem IMO.

Comes hand in hand, often told club can’t reduce prices yet pay that sort of money for a failing CEO.

The club won’t sell more season tickets until the value in them is better - on the park, entertainment etc.

From where I sit the club doesn’t look like it cares about the fans in any shape other than convincing them to hand over cash.

[hmac]

Summer football for me is a non starter. There are too many alternatives at that time of the year. People play golf during the smmer months whilst other people go fishing or playing bowls. When are the players going to get their end of season break from playing professional football.
They will not fancy having it during the cold winter months.
At the end of the Dunfermline home game just before Christmas 2019 an elderly gentleman was being helped down the stairs of the Main Stand as he had lost the feeling in his feet. It was not a particularly cold day
If I was that gentleman I would not be rushing back to attend home games at Dens Park during the cold winter months.
The game had finished in a 4-3 win for Dundee.

The commitment in time to watching Dundee at home games is about 3 hours a fortnight. Surely golf etc can also be done?

[islaydarkblue]

That's not a report on a study though; it's an essay based on comparison, assumption and opinion.

If this was sent to me I'd read the title and expect there would be some research based results to digest so I'd go to the executive summary - there isn't one - so I'd go to the end summary. I'd see the acronym IMO and I'd immediately write the 'study' off. John Nelms is quite a busy guy and I expect that's pretty much what he's done. If he did read any more of the end summary he'd see criticism of his policies.

Are you really surprised he didn't respond to it? I'm not.

At least these two supporters made an effort to try to do a report.
Sitting in the Directors Box John Nelms must see the gaps getting bigger and bigger in the South Enclosure each season from August 2013 until the last home game at Dens on 10th March 2020 when fans were admitted.
Doing nothing in my opinion is not an option.

[islaydarkblue]

No sure if you are being serious.

I meant making the home end the tck.

It has previously been posted on another topic that making the Bob Shankly stand the home end is a non starter.
It would result in a possible flash point where fans of opposing sides meet as Dundee supporters after collecting their match day ticket from the Dundee Direct shop would meet Away supporters walking to the Bobby Cox Stand.
There is a simple solution
Bring back PATG turnstiles in all stands.

[islaydarkblue]

The commitment in time to watching Dundee at home games is about 3 hours a fortnight. Surely golf etc can also be done?

Bowling matches on a Saturday start at 2.30pm and people play golf on a Saturday afternoon.
Fishing can take all day.
Some Dundee supporters also attend Away games.

[Deeranged]

At least these two supporters made an effort to try to do a report.
Sitting in the Directors Box John Nelms must see the gaps getting bigger and bigger in the South Enclosure each season from August 2013 until the last home game at Dens on 10th March 2020 when fans were admitted.
Doing nothing in my opinion is not an option.

Yes they did make that effort, and good on them as it possibly needs done, however it was commissioned by DFCSS by the look of it and not by the club. If the club is ever going to look at a report of this type, and take its contents and conclusions seriously, they'll commission it and allow access to the real data that they have. They certainly won't accept the contents and conclusions of a random and very high level unsolicited report.

Now I'll ask again, are you surprised the club didn't respond to it?

[Returnofrros]

It has previously been posted on another topic that making the Bob Shankly stand the home end is a non starter.
It would result in a possible flash point where fans of opposing sides meet as Dundee supporters after collecting their match day ticket from the Dundee Direct shop would meet Away supporters walking to the Bobby Cox Stand.
There is a simple solution
Bring back PATG turnstiles in all stands.

It's not a non starter.

A £200 booth could be used for ticks or main entrance.

The dabs continually move home ends as and when required as do st j, Ross county, killie and probably a few others but somehow folk seem to think violence would break out at Dens.

Bizzare.

[BCram]

Yes they did make that effort, and good on them as it possibly needs done, however it was commissioned by DFCSS by the look of it and not by the club. If the club is ever going to look at a report of this type, and take its contents and conclusions seriously, they'll commission it and allow access to the real data that they have. They certainly won't accept the contents and conclusions of a random and very high level unsolicited report.

Now I'll ask again, are you surprised the club didn't respond to it?

Deeranged, you are quite right in saying that the club should be doing a report. I started this thread to try to get some ideas about things that might be done. I think it is important to try to sell the sizzle of buying something. No matter what division we are in next season we are either going to be excited about a return to the SPL or excited about winning the Championship. That seems worth working on at Board level. I think it would send out the wrong message if we just saw the same well worn Early Bird pricing which I imagine has delivered diminishing ST Sales for the last 3 years.

By the way, I would have expected an acknowledgement of receipt of the report mentioned by Islay. That would be polite.I would not expect any detailed response.

[thegen65]

It has previously been posted on another topic that making the Bob Shankly stand the home end is a non starter.
It would result in a possible flash point where fans of opposing sides meet as Dundee supporters after collecting their match day ticket from the Dundee Direct shop would meet Away supporters walking to the Bobby Cox Stand.
There is a simple solution
Bring back PATG turnstiles in all stands.

Why would PATG be a solution to stop any flashpoints between fans? For example, i want to pay in the gate as per your suggestion. I come out of say the Barrells , GJs Halleys etc as do large numbers of our match days. The quickest route is down Mains Road,cross Dens Road, up the Provie Road then into the Main stand passing the away fans walking past the Main stand to head to the Bobby Cox. Explain to me how paying at the gate would stop any fan flashpoints, or would you rather i walked down Mains Road, Down Dens Road past the SE,up North Isla Street, then onto Tannadice Street, meeting away fans heading from their buses cars to the ground.

Home and away fans cross paths either going in our coming out week in week at Dens and Tannadice, it would not matter what the set up at Dens is fans will always mix going in and out of the match. Your suggestion that PATG would stop potential flashpoints is nonsense