Maurice Ross Sacked

[magpie_mania]

Cheers bloke! I don't post often at all, and did all but disappear for a long while. There was a certain element of toxicity on NCM that I just didn't care for. It might make me a "snowflake", but I can and do choose where I want to spend my time, and for me, it was better spent elsewhere. I also used to support someone with work to Notts matches, and when he died, I lost my taste for football then. I've not actually been back since the last much I went to with him, sum 8 years ago. Mrs Trew actually offered me a free ticket if I felt ready to return, and I just never really got around to it!

To get back to the topic at hand - it's always been a case of knowing your audience. Banter with your mates is one thing, but a football club is a business. If someone made the same kind of comment inside a professional working environment, he'd be lucky to be given the chance to resign. It was very much a stupid thing to say, and made his position untenable. The fact he resigned is a credit to himself and sparred the club a difficult decision and potentially bad PR.




The issue isn't the fact he called Enzio lazy, or expressed doubts about his mobility. As I've mentioned a few times, and as Freeman25 also said, the comment was made specifically because of the colour of Enzio's skin.

Your example about Sir Captain Tom isn't relevant to this. There's a point that could be made that using Sir Captain Tom as an example of poor mobility is offensive in of itself, with regards to infirmity. But that's not what this thread is about. Using Sir Captain Tom as an example doesn't work the same way if you were talking about an English player with poor mobility, because both are English.

Football is full of examples of this kind of lazy stereotyping with racial overtones. How often do football fans refer to a player of colour that's big and muscly as a "beast". And it's little stuff like this that perpetuates the more overt racism. There's a lot of pushback, both from football fans in general and from people in the wider world. "woke police", "PC culture", etc etc. Most of that just comes down to ignorance, people not wanting to accept there are consequences, or people who really need to get some new jokes. If your* jokes need to rely on old, offensive stereotypes, then maybe you just aren't funny.


*When I say your, I'm not talking about you specifically.

Good to see you back !

But don't get caught up by the trolls.

'The way Enzio has gone about this whole episode shows poor character' tells us more about the poster than either Enzio or Ross

[ulaggypie]

Good to see you back !

But don't get caught up by the trolls.

'The way Enzio has gone about this whole episode shows poor character' tells us more about the poster than either Enzio or Ross

Oh, for sure, on both counts!

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Good to see you back !

But don't get caught up by the trolls.

'The way Enzio has gone about this whole episode shows poor character' tells us more about the poster than either Enzio or Ross

like I say have you been a victim of racial abuse? I notice you didn't answer that point.
I have, so perhaps my tolerance level is different to yours and the stuff you perhaps have read about ?
If this was considered racism then in my eyes it was very low key and would have been more productive if a meeting and discussion took place behind closed doors and perhaps from this constructive meeting any relevant findings introduced as best practice.
anyway before we go balls deep what about the issue itself , which has been glossed over
is Enzio slow around the pitch and lacking in mobility ?
My main concern is that as a player if I had been criticised for playing poorly by my coach I would discuss that and see if there was any justification to it and if so how I could improve.
With what was said I wouldn't have run of crying racism , but that's just me , I suppose I must be racist or cut from a different cloth.

[queenslandpie]

like I say have you been a victim of racial abuse? I notice you didn't answer that point.
I have, so perhaps my tolerance level is different to yours and the stuff you perhaps have read about ?
If this was considered racism then in my eyes it was very low key and would have been more productive if a meeting and discussion took place behind closed doors and perhaps from this constructive meeting any relevant findings introduced as best practice.
anyway before we go balls deep what about the issue itself , which has been glossed over
is Enzio slow around the pitch and lacking in mobility ?
My main concern is that as a player if I had been criticised for playing poorly by my coach I would discuss that and see if there was any justification to it and if so how I could improve.
With what was said I wouldn't have run of crying racism , but that's just me , I suppose I must be racist or cut from a different cloth.

You dont seem keen on discussing the context stuff though Pedro do you? Is Enzio generally a bit soft? Well I don't know and neither do you. Did Enzio not have a very good relationship with Ross? Well I don't know and neither do you. Was what Ross said casual low level racist? Well yes it was. You need to split up the issues and apply context.