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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    No matter how clear a point is, there's always someone who doesn't quite get it. Unfortunately for you, you're that person. Sorry about that.

    A manager who has had two chances at this level and failed. A manager who squeaked promotion last season, only making it on PPG. Late goals, a tendency to fail in big games, poor game management and so on are all things that happen to us under PW. Not just this season, but previous seasons too with different playing staff. The buck rests with the manager.

    Neither you nor I have got a clue who might become available, or who is available or who we could approach within our budget. Time for TS to have a long hard think because something has to change.
    Sorry, but this is nonsense.

    We do have an idea who might become available, because the number of candidates isn't exactly bursting at the seams.

    You appeared to mention Warnock because you literally couldn't think of a better suggestion for who might replace Warne. It was a ridiculous suggestion. If I'm wrong, name a better candidate?

    You say we fail in big games... I take it you wasn't there at Wembley? Or the playoffs? Or you didn't watch the Sheff Wednesday game earlier this season or many others I could name?

    You say we "only made it on PPG". Last season was exceptional but that comment is like saying we only got promoted because we got more points on average than the other teams - that's how league tables work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    When it is a private business that I choose to give my custom to and I judge is being run exceptionally well, no, why on earth would it matter? What do you think is achieved by bemoaning the people who actually were succesful enough in life to be in a position to provide a financially secure and succesful (for its size) football club!?
    Please John dont ever respond to wendun, he is a wind up merchant of the worst kind and gives nothing to this forum. Just bear that in mind please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    I’m not allowed a different opinion then ?
    What a victim complex.

    How do you think message boards work? You post an opinion and then people can agree or disagree.

    People are disagreeing with you, that is not the same thing as saying you're not allowed to hold an opinion. Crikey. Poor you if you live your life thinking disagreement is an attack on your freedom to have an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    i don’t act like it’s unreasonable to be grateful or thankful, just don’t get this love in you have for him . I’m not allowed to criticise the chairman. I don’t think asking him to spend a bit more in the jan transfer window on better quality loans is asking too much , you obviously think it is . I’m thankful too that he saved the club but for how long have we got to be grateful for ? It gives him a get out of jail free card .
    In answer to your question, 1) we have to be grateful for as long as we have a football club.

    and 2) asking someone else to spend millions of pounds when you're not spending millions of pounds yourself is, to most reasonable people, asking too much.

    Edit: Also, you're allowed to criticise all you want, I'm just allowed to think you're ungrateful and have no comprehension or understanding of what he has given this club when you do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronners View Post
    So you are saying that TS cant afford to sell the club?
    Of course not, he's a rich man.

    What i am saying is how much do you sell a club for with no ground as assets? We pay(i think £1M in this Div and half that in L1). If he was going to sell the ground then how much is it worth? How much as been paid off the £15M so far?

    More important is what happens in 10yrs(or so) time when it's paid off, do we get free rent ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    Sorry, but this is nonsense.

    We do have an idea who might become available, because the number of candidates isn't exactly bursting at the seams.

    You appeared to mention Warnock because you literally couldn't think of a better suggestion for who might replace Warne. It was a ridiculous suggestion. If I'm wrong, name a better candidate?

    You say we fail in big games... I take it you wasn't there at Wembley? Or the playoffs? Or you didn't watch the Sheff Wednesday game earlier this season or many others I could name?

    You say we "only made it on PPG". Last season was exceptional but that comment is like saying we only got promoted because we got more points on average than the other teams - that's how league tables work.
    Oh you really are clutching at straws with this post.

    How on earth do you expect me to name a better candidate when I have no idea who we could afford? Do YOU know who we can afford. It's down to the chairman to start talking to people.

    Well obviously we've won SOME big games but what about Wycombe, Coventry, Birmingham? Tons of examples here. Not just this season either. I see you ignored the other points I made.

    I do know how league tables work, do you? It's where you play everyone twice not finish the season early. We were stuttering badly when lockdown came and teams around us were flying.

    Maybe you're just the sort of person who fails at something and tries the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    What a victim complex.

    How do you think message boards work? You post an opinion and then people can agree or disagree.

    People are disagreeing with you, that is not the same thing as saying you're not allowed to hold an opinion. Crikey. Poor you if you live your life thinking disagreement is an attack on your freedom to have an opinion.
    I will bear that in mind . You are obviously too clever for me . Are you a psychologist? Could you help me get better .

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    In answer to your question, 1) we have to be grateful for as long as we have a football club.

    and 2) asking someone else to spend millions of pounds when you're not spending millions of pounds yourself is, to most reasonable people, asking too much.

    Edit: Also, you're allowed to criticise all you want, I'm just allowed to think you're ungrateful and have no comprehension or understanding of what he has given this club when you do so.
    I’ve not asked him to spend millions. If I’m not reasonable what am I ? Be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    How on earth do you expect me to name a better candidate when I have no idea who we could afford? Do YOU know who we can afford. It's down to the chairman to start talking to people.
    I know we can afford Paul Warne, P2, W2 in terms of promotion at L1 Level.

    You don't know who we can afford. You can't even come up with one name that we might be able to attract, afford, and who would be better than Paul Warne can you?

    Maybe you see having a stable, well run football club yo-yo ing between L1 and the Championship as failure. MAybe until one of us can afford to bank roll us that is actually success and we should keep trying the same thing?

    If we switch manager and hypothetically end up lower mid table in L1 next season - will you be glad we rolled the dice and didn't try the 'same thing'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    I’ve not asked him to spend millions. If I’m not reasonable what am I ? Be nice.
    I apologise, it was magically getting really good players on loans for just a fraction more than we paid that was your all encompassing master plan, because teams are just queuing up to loan out their best players to the marginally highest bidders at struggling relegation battling clubs.

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