Sutton Utd

[Elite_Pie]

Facts 1 to 3 are correct, 4 is only partly correct as it's only a few I don't mind and enjoy making look silly.

That makes FACT 4 100% correct, not partly correct.

Regarding FACT 2, you still seem to be struggling to understand. I've explained on many occasions in very great detail why I single you out, but the real truth is that the moderator asked us all to do something, but you flatly refused to do as he asked.

What gives you the right to do that?

[laddo]

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

For me he failed in season one, obviously#toxiccircus.

He didn't fail in season two when we finished 3rd and lost in the final. Season 3 we won't ever know but it was underwhelming until he left. Playoffs very likely, promotion unlikely is my take but that's just an opinion, not fact

The whole debate is linked to what someone else has already mentioned, some people can't get over being relegated to NL and choose to blame 1 man and one many only. Most blame multiple persons.

It's been discussed to death, we are doing it again. No other rubbish ex Notts manager has ever got so much attention and discussion as Nice Guy Neal.

Slightly strange it's still happening when we are in great form under a new manager and about to enter the playoffs but hey ho it's NCM#viva

[Elite_Pie]

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

Correct. The fact that we've had many managerial failures doesn't make Ardley's reign acceptable. We all know that laddo instantly ridiculed anyone who said that Ardley wasn't the answer. As UTM suggests, he's never had the guts to say "Yeah you were probably right".

[Elite_Pie]

For me he failed in season one, obviously#toxiccircus.

He didn't fail in season two when we finished 3rd and lost in the final. Season 3 we won't ever know but it was underwhelming until he left. Playoffs very likely, promotion unlikely is my take but that's just an opinion, not fact

The whole debate is linked to what someone else has already mentioned, some people can't get over being relegated to NL and choose to blame 1 man and one many only. Most blame multiple persons.

It's been discussed to death, we are doing it again. No other rubbish ex Notts manager has ever got so much attention and discussion as Nice Guy Neal.

Slightly strange it's still happening when we are in great form under a new manager and about to enter the playoffs but hey ho it's NCM#viva

You have without doubt made the biggest U-turn of anyone on here. For well over a year you openly mocked and ridiculed anyone who dared to criticise your idol (and back then he definitely was your idol), now you have switched sides to 'all in' on Burchnall. Never once have you said "maybe my total faith in Neal Ardley was a bit misplaced".

[laddo]

Total faith? I can't believe you have fallen into the 'idol' trap, I thought you were better than that. You always claimed i was Ardley's biggest supporter even though I openly said #noexcuses get rid if he doesn't get us promoted . Only said it a dozen+ times you conveniently ignored it obviously. Whereas others would keep regardless of promotion or not this season. Hmmmmm, better ignore that.

Because I regularly challenged the OTT laughable anti NA comments you and other mistakenly had me down at the ultimate pro Ardley fan, not Pro Notts , pro Ardley regardless of my comments. I don't like the #pitchfork OTT comments on social media neither does my mate Stall as he stated after the Chesterfield away game.

It's cherry picking at its finest but it fits a purpose I guess.

Rafa your facts all are all over the place. Fact 4 is only partly correct for the reasons I've stated, only a few people I enjoy making fun of. Can you guess who?

As for Fact 2, your blanket refusal when I and multiple others suggested the obvious solution was to ignore each other (which would make the handbags thread redundant) puts you in absolutely no position to criticise others.

The handbags thread has served a purpose clearly, it's been beneficial to the board as it kept a lot of the waffle (like this) that the majority have no interest in, contained. Sadly a few of the clowns escaped the circus and regularly start to instigate arguments just like on a thread about Sutton United deservedly winning the league.

Looks like your comments (about me, shock horror) on the Jim O'Brien thread was the final straw and we lost the mod who so often moved whole threads to try designated thread.

The only positive of this thread I can see is that it's clearly shown your levels of hypocrisy is off the charts. The ignoring of nicknames, the puerile comments, the demanding the use of the handbags thread as a solution whilst at the same time ignoring a better solution, the championing of free speech whilst also trying to censor others.

It's why I suggested a friend or family member brought you a mirror so you can gain some self awareness.

You sit on the sidelines drinking your weak lemon drink and eating your egg and cress sandwiches in your cagoule and playing it safe whilst we ride the #burchnall bandwagon.

Let's hope he gets all of next season if we don't manage to go up via the playoffs this season#stability#aplan

[laddo]

Correct. The fact that we've had many managerial failures doesn't make Ardley's reign acceptable. We all know that laddo instantly ridiculed anyone who said that Ardley wasn't the answer. As UTM suggests, he's never had the guts to say "Yeah you were probably right".

I never once said Ardley was the answer. Good luck using your search engine to find that quote. Please don't fall back into your old habits of making things up and misquoting people.

As I've told DavyFacts and others when they claim "we were right you were wrong" or "my favourite "you lost" you don't win a prize for predicting a Notts manager won't be successful. Not even a cuddly toy.

Come on Elite you claim to be a betting man, check the past form at NCFC. What odds are the bookies going to offer on any Notts manager being successful when appointed?

[Elite_Pie]

Looks like your comments (about me, shock horror) on the Jim O'Brien thread was the final straw and we lost the mod who so often moved whole threads to try designated thread.

But why was he forced to move them rather than posters heeding his advice and doing it for themselves? I think the four indisputable FACTS have answered that question, but keep clutching at straws by all means if that's all you have left.

[Elite_Pie]

I never once said Ardley was the answer. Good luck using your search engine to find that quote.

Maybe not in those exact words, but you surely can't deny that you openly mocked and ridiculed anyone who suggested that he wasn't the answer. Your U-turn has (apologies for pinching a couple of your favourite phrases), been "a thing of beauty, an NCM classic".

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Laddo/Elite/others, you have a difference of opinion. Nothing one of you says is going to make the other concede that they were right and you were wrong. Please for the sake of this messageboard let it go.

I really get confused by people that complain about spats between posters , why don't you just ignore it.
Do you not realise by writing your pleas to stop is highly ridiculous as you become part of the problem you are moaning about.
Just because it makes you think you more righteous than the rest it actually doesn't ,honestly B1 think about it , in the words of Hugh Cornwall (Dionne Warwick) Walk On By
Gotcha !
Chooooo Chooooooo

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Maybe not in those exact words, but you surely can't deny that you openly mocked and ridiculed anyone who suggested that he wasn't the answer. Your U-turn has (apologies for pinching a couple of your favourite phrases), been "a thing of beauty, an NCM classic".

Has he been talking 5h1t3 again !? off course he has why did I even bother asking , if there's a Y in the day he's spouting 5h1t3, I hope I got a mention.
let me guess he not really a fan of Ardley but he is a fan , he didn't want him sacked but he thinks its right that IB is in charge. He doesn't think Ardley got us relegated but Hardy did ,( I see he's even excusing Ardley by saying Notts have had awful mangers in the past ?)
Has he been writing tomes in response to you questioning his validity of a point , to the point that you cant actually understand what the foooook he's on about ?
just another day in the life of the Richard cranium I believe !!
Swales biggest mistake was not banning the little cherub for life xxx

Sutton one of the latest in the line of non league football giants to outwit our very own former football genius that was Neal Ardley.!