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    Quote Originally Posted by kettering_baggie View Post
    ....and suggesting that there are no racists amongst their ‘community’? I’m sick of all this ****, people should just get on with their lives, stop moaning about hard done by they are and treat others as they themselves wish to be treated. That’s ok for most but maybe some want special treatment?
    So basically you have an issue with people who don't feel they're on a level playing field, fighting to be treated the same? That's the crux of it? What adverse effects has this cause had on you? If there are none, what are you moaning about? Basically, anyone who feels marginalised should just get on with it? Who the bloody hell are you to say that if you're not experiencing the same issues? Change only comes when people demand it, they've got every right to express themselves. I'd love to know how this has affected you personally. It's astoundingly arrogant to tell them to just get on with it because YOU'RE sick of it. Of course there are racist black people, there are racists in every section of society, does that mean that every BLM activist is? Of course not, I've already highlighted that in a previous post. Where is your evidence for it? Would you have said the civil rights movement wanted special treatment? The peasants revolt wanted special treatment? Gandhi wanted special treatment? It's nothing to do with special treatment, it's everything to do with equality. If you can't empathise with that, the problem isn't with them, it's within you. If you harbour suspicion, jealousy, fear or don't understand the world has changed, the problem isn't with them, it's within you. You can't pontificate on who can and can't protest, their lived experiences are completely different to yours. People close to me have had horrendous experiences of this, with the police, the judicial system, in schools, on the street, but you want them to just shut up and get on with it? Nope, it doesn't work like that. Especially when it's not having an adverse affect on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OWV View Post
    So basically you have an issue with people who don't feel they're on a level playing field, fighting to be treated the same? That's the crux of it? What adverse effects has this cause had on you? If there are none, what are you moaning about? Basically, anyone who feels marginalised should just get on with it? Who the bloody hell are you to say that if you're not experiencing the same issues? Change only comes when people demand it, they've got every right to express themselves. I'd love to know how this has affected you personally. It's astoundingly arrogant to tell them to just get on with it because YOU'RE sick of it. Of course there are racist black people, there are racists in every section of society, does that mean that every BLM activist is? Of course not, I've already highlighted that in a previous post. Where is your evidence for it? Would you have said the civil rights movement wanted special treatment? The peasants revolt wanted special treatment? Gandhi wanted special treatment? It's nothing to do with special treatment, it's everything to do with equality. If you can't empathise with that, the problem isn't with them, it's within you. If you harbour suspicion, jealousy, fear or don't understand the world has changed, the problem isn't with them, it's within you. You can't pontificate on who can and can't protest, their lived experiences are completely different to yours. People close to me have had horrendous experiences of this, with the police, the judicial system, in schools, on the street, but you want them to just shut up and get on with it? Nope, it doesn't work like that. Especially when it's not having an adverse affect on you.
    Very well said!

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