Is the moderator fair?

[i961pie]

I am new around here. I was a mod on a software forum for several years and I am quite active on a motorbike forum here in NZ. The motorbike forum seems somewhat similar in that some of the characters can have valuable input in to some of the on topic topics but seem to lose themselves when they go off topic and show some really negative traits that would result in a kicking if they had that attitude down at the Astoria. There seem to be a handful of those types on NCM.

The forum can be the problem by allowing or even encouraging off topic threads. While great to just chin wag with people they do tend to provide too many opportunities for those people to bring the same arguments in to a new thread and kill it. Options are to ban off topic threads which means we all lose out on banter that can amuse and be a godsend in these times or you just ban those particular users, three month ban first and then permanent. You are too soft on them and as had been said several times of late they are dragging this place down.

I have not voted to see if we can get the figure down to 100%. Isn't that how Boris got in?

Where abouts in NZ are you?

[Another one]

Where abouts in NZ are you?

The Paris of the south, AKA Mosgiel.

[SmiffyPie]

I am new around here. I was a mod on a software forum for several years and I am quite active on a motorbike forum here in NZ. The motorbike forum seems somewhat similar in that some of the characters can have valuable input in to some of the on topic topics but seem to lose themselves when they go off topic and show some really negative traits that would result in a kicking if they had that attitude down at the Astoria. There seem to be a handful of those types on NCM.

The forum can be the problem by allowing or even encouraging off topic threads. While great to just chin wag with people they do tend to provide too many opportunities for those people to bring the same arguments in to a new thread and kill it. Options are to ban off topic threads which means we all lose out on banter that can amuse and be a godsend in these times or you just ban those particular users, three month ban first and then permanent. You are too soft on them and as had been said several times of late they are dragging this place down.

I have not voted to see if we can get the figure down to 100%. Isn't that how Boris got in?

We did chin wag ten years or so ago but the clever r'sess and bully boys drove the chin waggers away and the board as never been the same.

[Elite_Pie]

We did chin wag ten years or so ago but the clever r'sess and bully boys drove the chin waggers away and the board as never been the same.

Rather a rose tinted view in my opinion Smiffy. There was definitely some good chin wagging back then, but there was also a rather unpleasant racist element on here that went unchecked (if you want names I'll provide them privately). I've always thought that a messageboard without argument is a dead messageboard, but those arguments have to be within the rules.

That's why Swale's role is so difficult.

[SmiffyPie]

Rather a rose tinted view in my opinion Smiffy. There was definitely some good chin wagging back then, but there was also a rather unpleasant racist element on here that went unchecked (if you want names I'll provide them privately). I've always thought that a messageboard without argument is a dead messageboard, but those arguments have to be within the rules.

That's why Swale's role is so difficult.

Yes there were issues (limited to a small number of posters) but I seem to remember there was a strong reaction from the majority of board members. The difference between then and now is if there was no football to talk about then we generally had some good topics of conversation and the camaraderie was at times biblical! Now if there is nothing football it becomes a slanging match between three or four posters.

[Elite_Pie]

Yes there were issues (limited to a small number of posters) but I seem to remember there was a strong reaction from the majority of board members. The difference between then and now is if there was no football to talk about then we generally had some good topics of conversation and the camaraderie was at times biblical! Now if there is nothing football it becomes a slanging match between three or four posters.

So back then it was "limited to a small number of posters", nowadays it's a "slanging match between three or four posters".

As the French might say, plus ça change!

[Woodypie]

I think yes, generally but swifter action required to stop personal abuse and threats of violence. Straight red, month ban. I wonder if there should be a daily limit on number of posts that can be made? It would reduce the bickering that ruins every thread.

[laddo]

Well that's definitely progress as all involved are indeed culpable and contribute to varying degrees. There is no "one instigator" there never has been.

I don't know whether the moderator has run the poll just to get a general flavour of how NCM feels. Or whether it's to amend his approach going forward with next season in mind. Either way surely any warnings/bans on whatever approach the moderator decides to take (it's his prerogative after all in his role) have to be from this point forward or following up he results of the poll? Not retrospective as the goalposts will have been moved and approach amended.

At the very least the results will give a real flavour of how the NCM users feel overall. Which can't be a bad thing IMO.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

My opinion:

If, and when there is a ban imposed, I will be very disappointed if only one side of this feud is sentenced.

The two sides are equally culpable.......One by bad language,and aggression. The other by stealth and (a word we used to use in

the playground at school)...being "smarmy". Yes it's in the dictionary...and fits perfectly. #mission

Nailed it..!...
Although for smarmy I believeve passive aggressive was a favoured technique by some

[pravda_plc]

Swale is FAIR ... but not firm enough. Too many final warnings - not enough action.

I visit a lots of other football messageboards and they all have their share of bigots and loudmouthed trolls - people who are intent on spoiling it for the majority.

The difference is they get stomped on pretty quickly by the moderator(s).