For the future of English football.

[CAMiller]

Disappointing show from us. As some have already said, too much passing backwards but Scotland were very well set out and as soon as we got the ball, organised themselves quickly and ruled out quick passes forward. But also, we were very slow to make space and play the ball forward when we'd just regained possession and had a chance to catch them out of shape. That was the big disappointment for me. It was a mix of either no one being quick enough to find the space or the player regaining possession not seeing available players and quickly playing the ball forward. As a result lots of passing backwards and across the back. On the one level, a great achievement from Southgate since taking over from Sam and Roy is that we no longer lose the ball so easily and can play the ball around accurately as much as most top Euro sides, but the problem is we aren't incisive and making chances from the possession. All boils down to players not finding space, or players not quick enough in seeing the players making space and passing forward to them. Or a mixture of both.

Very similar to Spurs who I've seen loads this season under Mourinho. Exactly the same problem.

I'd have been more tempted to put Calvert-Lewin on for Kane and get some crosses in later in the game, or use him to hold the ball further up top.

Worrying now that Czecks only have to hold onto a draw to finish top and will likely play the same way. I agree with gru I think that I'd play Grealish or Foden behind Kane and have Kane stop dropping back. Or start with C-L. We'll need to find ways of taking the ball at the defences we face instead of just looking for passes into holes from deep.

Still in with a shout but I am seeing the likes of France and Italy who both can play the ball around but have outlets for the ball and are incisive in speedy passing, and thinking we're nowhere near that level. Maybe we'll click when playing a more expansive team and create chances but worried that we'll draw against the Czecks, and find ourselves straight up against France who we'll no doubt give a good game to (we have some quality players) but then our defence will be likely found out.

If we draw against the Czech Republic we'll play Spain, Sweden, Poland or Slovenia in the next round. If we beat them we'll play the runner up of the France/Germany/Portugal group. I don't foresee a victory

[ragingpup]

If we draw against the Czech Republic we'll play Spain, Sweden, Poland or Slovenia in the next round. If we beat them we'll play the runner up of the France/Germany/Portugal group. I don't foresee a victory

I thought that if we finished 2nd in our group we play the top team of France's group?

[CAMiller]

I thought that if we finished 2nd in our group we play the top team of France's group?

Nope. Winner of our group plays the runner up of the France group. Runner up in our group plays the runner up in Spain's group.

[ragingpup]

Nope. Winner of our group plays the runner up of the France group. Runner up in our group plays the runner up in Spain's group.

Ta chuck

[MillersTime]

Nope. Winner of our group plays the runner up of the France group. Runner up in our group plays the runner up in Spain's group.

What if we end up finishing 3rd? Who do we get?

[CAMiller]

What if we end up finishing 3rd? Who do we get?

Too many variables at the moment to say except it'll be one of the other 15 teams that get through

Hard to believe it's going to have taken 2 weeks and 36 games to just eliminate 8 teams.

[MillersTime]

Too many variables at the moment to say except it'll be one of the other 15 teams that get through

Hard to believe it's going to have taken 2 weeks and 36 games to just eliminate 8 teams.

Thanks for clearing that up haha

It is a little confusing. All I've seen is winners playing runners up, as per. So who plays the 3rd teams? Can't be other 3rd places, would have thought it would be winners but if we win we get a runner up. Idk.

[CAMiller]

Thanks for clearing that up haha

It is a little confusing. All I've seen is winners playing runners up, as per. So who plays the 3rd teams? Can't be other 3rd places, would have thought it would be winners but if we win we get a runner up. Idk.

Winners of Groups B,C,E and F all play one of the 4 3rd placed teams but which ones depends on where those 4 come from so no games in the last 16 will be a repeat of any game already played e.g. Netherland have won group C but can't play Ukraine or Austria if either of them make it through as a 3rd placed team.