The Corona Virus

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Give him time BT.

I thought he was doing a great job at the Exchequer sinkov, until Cummings and Johnson got all jealous of his abilities.

[sinkov]

I thought he was doing a great job at the Exchequer sinkov, until Cummings and Johnson got all jealous of his abilities.

To say that Javid and Sunak have got their work cut out over the next few years is putting it mildly BT. If either of them survive the coming ****-storm with their reputations intact, they'll have done very well indeed.

[army88]

I can agree with you about the jabs Army, they have broken the link between infections and hospitalisations/deaths, so we can now get back to normality and treat Covid as we do Flu. However you still insist that Lockdowns have brought this thing under control, when a ten minute perusal of the Government's own stats, readily available here, https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/, will show that they didn't. Just to be clear Army, I'm not saying that Lockdowns didn't bring it under control, it's the Government's own stats that say they didn't. All you have to do is look.

Might have typed that wrong Sinkov I wasn’t sanctioning lockdown either way , what I meant was if you look at other countries they’re having lockdowns ie Aussies as they have very few people jabbed - basically I think they believed they’d stopped it by lockdown phase 1 -2 but obviously they haven’t and it’s running wild in the larger cities in Australia- Europe know the score as they’re jabbing like us to try and get some control of it.

I said before we won’t get proper control as you alluded like a flu until all are inoculated as the possibility is there to spread it without much effort and kill
People again.

Maybe we’re at a point where we should just say if your not inoculated and you catch it you won’t be treated by the NHS , that would do the trick I think for all the conspiracy theory bods out there who insist it kills you ( the jab that is ) , it’s a bit like your statistics on lockdown in reverse with the jab , millions jabbed and a tiny minority with issues or dead - was it the jab that killed them ? Who knows.

But as I posted the other day flu jabs contain formaldehyde but that hasn’t stopped millions getting jabbed , and maybe losing their lives from it again who knows - lots of flu deaths on here according to posters before Covid arrived.

[army88]

To be fair Sinkov we didn’t have access to the jab at the time , rationally to stop the spread keep people apart was what they thought was the answer.

We could all argue did it stop it or not , reality is when we got a solution ( inoculation) we started a roll out to ease restrictions of lockdowns - again we could argue that it’s flared up again and lockdown is required until All are jabbed.

I see yours and Norders points with this but I think it was needed to save lives at the time , I agree that now it has to change and move forward so life can start again , it’s the non jab people I can’t get my head around - get the jab protect yourself and more importantly other s around you and go back to doing what we were doing two years ago . Simples.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

"Maybe we’re at a point where we should just say if your not inoculated and you catch it you won’t be treated by the NHS , that would do the trick I think for all the conspiracy theory bods out there who insist it kills you ( the jab that is ) , it’s a bit like your statistics on lockdown in reverse with the jab , millions jabbed and a tiny minority with issues or dead - was it the jab that killed them ?"

Freedom of choice out through the window in your world, eh army88?

State backed blackmail, coercion and control just will not cut it with me. Johnson and the rest of your Brownshirts will never convince me that the tactics of fascism have any place in the United Kingdom.

[army88]

"Maybe we’re at a point where we should just say if your not inoculated and you catch it you won’t be treated by the NHS , that would do the trick I think for all the conspiracy theory bods out there who insist it kills you ( the jab that is ) , it’s a bit like your statistics on lockdown in reverse with the jab , millions jabbed and a tiny minority with issues or dead - was it the jab that killed them ?"

Freedom of choice out through the window in your world, eh army88?

State backed blackmail, coercion and control just will not cut it with me. Johnson and the rest of your Brownshirts will never convince me that the tactics of fascism have any place in the United Kingdom.

You can preach that rubbish as much as you like BT , freedom of choice is one thing , ignorance is another - from your own point of view if this thing didn’t kill others and get passed around like it does then I’d say crack on and don’t have the jabs , but sadly it does so in my eyes that s immoral and selfish but your not on your own I know that.

[Norder]

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If you think about it Norder the passport is a good idea , there are lockdowns popping up again all over the world and why would you leave yourself open as a country to introducing this **** show again for another 12 - 18 months - regardless if you believe ( you don’t ) has every country got it wrong then ? Europe is inoculating like us some are not, Australia for example has very little in the way of vaccinated people ( they’re currently locked down again - serious home lockdowns

I've thought about it army....the passport is a sick idea, the likes that only tyrannical despots would employ to impede our ability to move freely - this isn't their planet ffs, and trust them ?....Never !

the truth is out there, and all who look for it - will see it.

Maybe we’re at a point where we should just say if your not inoculated and you catch it you won’t be treated by the NHS , that would do the trick I think for all the conspiracy theory bods out there who insist it kills you

seems you have no interest in what the man who invented up the idea of mrna vax (Dr malone) thinks about this so-called "vaccine"....so this is a pointless powwow tbh...but anyway, here's another one of your conspiracy bots - army.....this one just happens to be -

Queensland's Chief Health Officer

"We have had very few deaths due to COVID-19 in Australia in people under the age of 50 and wouldn't it be terrible that our first 18-year-old in Queensland who dies related to this pandemic, died because of the vaccine.

"I don't want an 18-year-old in Queensland dying from a clotting illness who, if they got COVID, probably wouldn't die.

Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan also said he agreed with Dr Young and that people under 40 should not get the AstraZeneca COVID vaccination, based on health advice.

"That is the advice we have and that is the national advice from the immunisation experts," Mr McGowan said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...cine/100256022



and how many times army - the "vaccine" - is Not an "Inoculation" - it does Not use a live agent/virus/antigen/bacteria etc etc - your not being infected with Anything (so were told) - it does what the body does naturally (unless it's flucked) which is a boost to your immune system - meaning - you can still catch a bug, and shed a bug...the only help being, to assist with your Own immune response... .


Cheers.

[army88]

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I've thought about it army....the passport is a sick idea, the likes that only tyrannical despots would employ to impede our ability to move freely - this isn't their planet ffs, and trust them ?....Never !

the truth is out there, and all who look for it - will see it.










seems you have no interest in what the man who invented up the idea of mrna vax (Dr malone) thinks about this so-called "vaccine"....so this is a pointless powwow tbh...but anyway, here's another one of your conspiracy bots - army.....this one just happens to be -

Queensland's Chief Health Officer

"We have had very few deaths due to COVID-19 in Australia in people under the age of 50 and wouldn't it be terrible that our first 18-year-old in Queensland who dies related to this pandemic, died because of the vaccine.

"I don't want an 18-year-old in Queensland dying from a clotting illness who, if they got COVID, probably wouldn't die.

Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan also said he agreed with Dr Young and that people under 40 should not get the AstraZeneca COVID vaccination, based on health advice.

"That is the advice we have and that is the national advice from the immunisation experts," Mr McGowan said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...cine/100256022



and how many times army - the "vaccine" - is Not an "Inoculation" - it does Not use a live agent/virus/antigen/bacteria etc etc - your not being infected with Anything (so were told) - it does what the body does naturally (unless it's flucked) which is a boost to your immune system - meaning - you can still catch a bug, and shed a bug...the only help being, to assist with your Own immune response... .


Cheers.

Come on Norder vaccine / cure / inoculation it’s irrelevant in that it does what it says on the tin , even the biggest conspiracy theorist can’t deny it’s stopped people dying ( all be it whatever age they’re at - I’ve had 50 plus years on this planet but I’d like to see my grand kids grow up tbh ).

As for the boy without the added immune boost as you call it , what will be the verdict if he dies ? Oh it’s unfortunate or maybe we should have jabbed him - age is irrelevant in this debate as no one knows what will happen if you contract Covid , it’s not a flu nor does it react like one that we have controlled for years, I’m a great believer in peoples lives matter and as I said from the start of all this when the headlines read it only takes the sick and old so most will be alright going forward etc

Truthfully the devil you do the devil you don’t with “ the immune boost jab”” , you won’t be on here in two weeks telling us he died or he’s lived but has long Covid and struggles to walk etc only that he’s survived and it was right not to jab him, the jab itself is the same as I posted before millions have had it without issue a tiny amount have had issues I guess that’s medicine ( they still didn’t deserve to suffer or die before I sound as heartless as the rest of you ).

people aren’t old cars going to the scrap yard they matter and deserved a chance at life or let’s say as I did above a chance to see kids and grand kids grow up.

I do see both sides of the coin , I just don’t think it’s as black and white as you post , I’ve said before my wife was forever finding stuff you post on here until she contracted Covid ( seriously ill ) and now she has a different view .

Sometimes Norder being honest I don’t read / listen to the conspiracy because it’s like a bad itch once you start you just can’t stop and you dig and dig until you find a million reasons to do or not to do something,

I made my choice to protect me my family and friends so morally I’ve done my best (I think ) it may be wrong if your right about it all but I’m happy in my own mind I’ve done my bit.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

And I'm more than happy to have decided to dodge the bullet and miss the jab. Win, win, move along now please, nothing to see here, except perhaps listen to more sanctimonious drivel.

[Supersub6]

And I'm more than happy to have decided to dodge the bullet and miss the jab. Win, win, move along now please, nothing to see here, except perhaps listen to more sanctimonious drivel.

The bottom line is the same as with everything else -----We only know what 'they' tell us ----that is the same whether it is for or against. We actually know bugger all and I am not convinced that those arguing for or against know any more than I do, however, they expect that they can frighten people into submission and they have certainly done that with a lot of the population. Some people are even frightened to say hello when you pass them in the street.
You will either get the virus or you may not, such is life. If you get it you deal with it and if you don't you just get on with life. It's not rocket science.