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Thread: Euro 2021 live games

  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronners View Post
    The frustrating thing about us for me raging is that we can see there is a pass on at times but we are so reluctant to do it, so turn sideways and backwards, and the part about the speed of the Italians passing was spot on and they look a real good side.
    However, let's take one match at a time, as the pro's tell us, because whilst I expect us to win tonight, Ukraine are no mugs, and we will have to be at the top of our game to see it out. UTM
    Not sure if the players are so good at seeing the pass though Ronners, even when there is one on. It's either they can't see it, or they don't have faith they can make the pass without risking losing possession so they tend to play safe. Could be that they are drilled to not take chances and keep possession, building slowly. And in fairness that is restricting the chance of quick breaks against us when we do lose it.

  2. #252
    You get the experts on the tv saying the same, “ why no forward pass”

    When they do and the pass fails it sparks off a 10 minute post-mortem of the “ mistake”

    So players play safe and pass sideways and backwards

    Very good players have a higher forward pass attempt rate. I reckon Messi managed his high goal tally due to Iniesta’s passing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Not sure if the players are so good at seeing the pass though Ronners, even when there is one on. It's either they can't see it, or they don't have faith they can make the pass without risking losing possession so they tend to play safe. Could be that they are drilled to not take chances and keep possession, building slowly. And in fairness that is restricting the chance of quick breaks against us when we do lose it.
    I do think that ,as you say, they dont have faith in making the pass so they play the safe option, but in tight games surely someone has to take control.The flip side of that is that southgate is so defensive minded that there is usually no creative midfielder in the starting line up, like in the Germany match, so we rely on players like Sterling to drop deeper for the ball, and run at the opposition, because we have nobody capable to play them in, and they then come on for last 30 mins when either we are chasing the game, or looking to nick it, instead of starting the match and trying to dominate it. UTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    You get the experts on the tv saying the same, “ why no forward pass”

    When they do and the pass fails it sparks off a 10 minute post-mortem of the “ mistake”

    So players play safe and pass sideways and backwards

    Very good players have a higher forward pass attempt rate. I reckon Messi managed his high goal tally due to Iniesta’s passing
    I do understand Grist that if there isnt a pass on then by all means keep the ball, but we seem to keep the ball way too long at times, when at least one possible through ball was on, let's see what team he picks tonight. UTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    Sterling frustrates me when he does that
    Dribbles into dead ends instead of passing it but he has scored the goals this time so that's an improvement.

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    I'm going to support Ukraine.

    We owe then one after our betrayal of the Lienz cossacks (as seen on GoldenEye).
    Last edited by great_fire; 03-07-2021 at 04:15 PM.

  7. #257
    Czech R v Denmark

    Thought I would tune in to the ITV coverage, about 25 minutes to kick off.

    At first I thought I had chosen the wrong channel, all they were talking about was Raheem’s struggle against racism.

    Don’t they ever ****ing stop with the brainwashing?

    It’s Czech R v Denmark ffs, nothing to do with Sterling whatsoever, let alone preaching on racism.

  8. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    I'm going to support Ukraine.

    We owe then one after our betrayal of the Lienz cossacks (as seen on GoldenEye).
    Our eldest thinks I'm the most pessimistic bloke he knows but I've got a bad feeling about this one. I reckon the Ukrainians will be cynical and try to get one of our players sent off with play-acting. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and for Sterling to score a hat trick because we all knew he'd be the man that did it for us right form the start of the tournament, didn't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    You get the experts on the tv saying the same, “ why no forward pass”

    When they do and the pass fails it sparks off a 10 minute post-mortem of the “ mistake”

    So players play safe and pass sideways and backwards

    Very good players have a higher forward pass attempt rate. I reckon Messi managed his high goal tally due to Iniesta’s passing
    Where are these experts? I’m in a pub watching ITV.

    Is the game on another channel because this is painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by South Coast Miller View Post
    Our eldest thinks I'm the most pessimistic bloke he knows but I've got a bad feeling about this one. I reckon the Ukrainians will be cynical and try to get one of our players sent off with play-acting. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and for Sterling to score a hat trick because we all knew he'd be the man that did it for us right form the start of the tournament, didn't we?
    F**K me SCM I thought you said your eldest thought you were pessimistic? not downright suicidal lol.

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