The Corona Virus

[army88]

I do not wish to be controversial, but it looks to me that we are going with now is the herd immunity strategy, which is what we should have done in the first place.

The death toll would have been no different, the economy would be ripping, there would be no increase in mental heath issues nor extra stress on the NHS.

I can't wait for the "Enquiry". Heads will roll...

Reprehensible...

Sajid Javid, ‘As a fresh set of eyes coming in, the thing that shocked me most was the huge waiting list, and the number of people that did not come forward because of the pandemic. We estimate there’s some seven million people that did not come forward to the NHS to be helped with things like cancer, with heart disease. Think about the deaths that have been sadly caused by that.’

It was always going to be herd immunity eventually when we could actually get a grip of this thing As we knew it wasn’t killing younger people at the time , however I can’t see us getting to straight edge so to speak until all elderly and people at risk are vaccinated, how can we ever control it while people can carry it unknowingly to anyone not vaccinated.

We’ve been doing this with flu for years and it mutates and they decide which vaccine to produce to attack a strain - Covid will probably be the same but with more severe consequences.

As for the politics where heads will roll I’m unsure why when the government can only take advice from chief medical officer and the NHS and virus specialists, seems to me as I’ve said many times devil you do devil you don’t , so if they hadn’t taken the actions they did , people would be on here moaning they didn’t do enough and that too many died and didn’t need to.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

How many more than Covid related 130,000 deaths would have been enough though army88?

What we are going to get now is a "Summer Firebreak", somewhat along the lines of "Eat Out to Help Out".

You and me know this bollox is not going to end well, but the difference between us is you trust Blow Job and I don't.

[Norder]

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however I can’t see us getting to straight edge so to speak until all elderly and people at risk are vaccinated, how can we ever control it....
We’ve been doing this with flu for years and it mutates and they decide which vaccine to produce to attack a strain - Covid will probably be the same but with more severe consequences.

mutations can be born in the vaccines production - the manufacturing process....making it useless at blocking the circulating strain - thats even If they guess right - but these genetically engineered Vax's are supposed to stop that, being theres nothing to mutate, unless that is - your double vaccinated cornwall care home residents, have no symptoms and are given a covid test.....

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry...ts-catch-covid

[sinkov]

Nop your reading it wrong again Sinkov as I said before , lockdown I believe was the solution to a problem when we had no vaccine and to try and reduce the spread of this , we’ll never know with facts and figures will we ?

But we will only ever know with the facts and figures Army, anyone can come on the telly and say lockdown was responsible for getting the virus under control, and come on telly and say that they do, non-stop, scientists, politicians, journalists, all of them saying lockdowns work, but they just say it, they never provide the stats to back up their claims.

And they don't provide the stats because they can't, I've shown just one set of stats in post 2283, those stats show they are lying, I can show you many other instances. There are some journos, scientists and politicians who do realise and accept that lockdowns don't work, but you'll never hear or see them on the BBC, they are excluded, only those who will perpetuate the lie are given airtime.

[sinkov]

They think it's all over on July 19th.

"Ministers will retain laws that allow local authorities to shut down businesses, prohibit certain events, or close outdoor public spaces “in case of a local breakout” or in case a new dangerous variant emerges, the Health Secretary told MPs.

“We will be keeping in place contingency measures, particularly for local authorities, the so-called Number Three regulations, at least until the end of September, in case those powers are needed in the case of a local breakout,” Mr Javid told the Commons."

Oh no it fecking isn't.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

They think it's all over on July 19th.

"Ministers will retain laws that allow local authorities to shut down businesses, prohibit certain events, or close outdoor public spaces “in case of a local breakout” or in case a new dangerous variant emerges, the Health Secretary told MPs.

“We will be keeping in place contingency measures, particularly for local authorities, the so-called Number Three regulations, at least until the end of September, in case those powers are needed in the case of a local breakout,” Mr Javid told the Commons."

Oh no it fecking isn't.

Right at the start of this pandemic malarkey when OC and 59er were both issuing the direst of warnings, I simply called it for what it was, the chance for this cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins led by a blonde-haired, grinning, smirking, clueless clown aided and abetted by their quisling sidekick Kier Starmer to exercise extreme "Control and Coercion" and keep it that way.

I see no reason to change that view mon ami - do you?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

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He also announced the outcome of the Government's review of domestic covid-status certification, also known as 'covid passports'. The Secretary of State confirmed the Government will not mandate the use of covid-status certification as a condition of entry for visitors to any setting, such as shops or events, at the present time.

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[sinkov]

Right at the start of this pandemic malarkey when OC and 59er were both issuing the direst of warnings, I simply called it for what it was, the chance for this cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins led by a blonde-haired, grinning, smirking, clueless clown aided and abetted by their quisling sidekick Kier Starmer to exercise extreme "Control and Coercion" and keep it that way.

I see no reason to change that view mon ami - do you?

The blob of jelly is, more or less, aiming to end to restrictions on July 19th. Starmer is going ape**** about it, he wants the restrictions to run and run, he wants the State to continue to run our lives for us, forever if need be. Which one is the Fascist ?

[sinkov]

how can we ever control it while people can carry it unknowingly to anyone not vaccinated.

Sorry, missed this first time round Army, and it's a very good point. I would simply ask, how can we ever control it....period.

I would suggest that the answer is, we can't, so as we do with flu, we just have to get on with our lives and live with it.

[Supersub6]

Sorry, missed this first time round Army, and it's a very good point. I would simply ask, how can we ever control it....period.

I would suggest that the answer is, we can't, so as we do with flu, we just have to get on with our lives and live with it.

Sinkov, as a rider to what you said, I agree that we will just have to get on with our lives and live with it because, it appears that people can carry it unknowingly and, not just to anyone who has not been vaccinated, it would appear that nobody is completely immune.

As I have said right from the start, if you are going to get it ---- you will and you then have to deal with it. Not a great thought, however, that's life.