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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psaw View Post
    Britain is a socialist country, but also an effective capitalist society. You cannot run a socialist state without money. Can you. Society provides sufficient monetary support for those who need it, that includes free health care, and housing, education....you name it.

    The origins of english children going hungry is about the limitations of the parents. There is a school of thought that states that poor, or poorer people dont learn, i subscribe to that. Look at alcohol, tobacco, gambling, phones, drugs etc. Poor people wont get help in those areas, , in fact they wont think they have a problem. They have a sense of entitlement.

    Its the governments fault, i want more money. Money wont help a serious personality disorder, alcoholism, narcissism, or any number of problems, lets face it, low intelligence., and immaturity. More money will just fuel the problem. What is needed is a social service that is a parent, a guidance, but doesnt appear to be so. This includes money management, services for addictions, and the ability to run peoples lives if they cant themselves. Which automatically includes children suffering at the hands of an inadequate parent.

    I know this is going to enrage some, but i have seen it after 35 years in the NHS. If you want to become a tory, work for the NHS. Now let me see, what will i be called now......
    You should know about addiction, because your posts sound like

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    To answer the OP...No, not always, it depends
    I've been following what's happening in Peru. There's been a mixing of football and politics there but nothing close to the discussion on this thread...

    A right-wing candidate made the Presidential run-off (2nd round). She happens to be the daughter of the right-wing dictator who 20-30 years ago..

    - massacred whole villages of innocent people
    - forced mass sterilisations of women based on social class and region
    - was the most corrupt regime in memory
    - tried to steal the last election he stood in to stay in power

    Yet during the campaign for the final round of voting, most of the Peruvian national football team came out to endorse this candidate (a couple refused). In doing so, they tied the national team to this candidate (who lost btw).
    This is an example of where players shouldn't involve themselves in the political process!

    Especially as it's since emerged that they accepted payments for this 'support'

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